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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8748549" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>[SPOILER="To Avoid Overtaking the Thread"]</p><p></p><p>The medium is important because it's a big part of Mormon doctrine. Ancient texts written on precious metal that bring back the old, dead, true religion that grants healing powers after over a thousand years of dark ages is a huge similarity that Dragonlance has with Mormon doctrine. You don't just stumble into that. And the link between having metal plates conveying important information isn't unique to Dragonlance, either. Mistborn uses that too, and those books' author, Brandon Sanderson, is also openly Mormon. </p><p></p><p>The medium the old religion is brought back is important if it has a ton of direct parallels to Mormon doctrine and multiple popular Mormon fantasy authors have used metal plates with crucial information engraved in them shows that it's a common link.</p><p></p><p>No, but Mormons believe in the Flood. I was demonstrating that major aspects of the books were inspired by at least one of the author's religious beliefs. </p><p></p><p>(Former.)</p><p></p><p>Yeah. But my personal experience in this matter makes me qualified to analyze whether or not the books have Mormon ties. Which it definitely does. Pretty major aspects of the novels and setting are directly inspired by Mormon beliefs.</p><p></p><p>Not what I was saying. I was just showing that divine magic with the power of healing and raising the dead being lost for a millenium until a blonde-haired, blue-eyed prophet brought it back was an obvious tie. </p><p></p><p>Maybe none of the things I listed are <em>exclusively</em> Mormon, but a lot of them are <em>especially</em> Mormon. And, pardon the assumption, but I'm guessing you're not very familiar with Mormonism beyond possibly briefly interacting with some and reading a few Wikipedia articles/internet posts about it. </p><p></p><p>Again, this is a core aspect of Mormon theology. It's basically the first thing missionaries teach you when they start trying to convert you, and they repeat it all of the time at church. "The true religion died 2 thousand years ago when we lost the priesthood/healing magic, and a new prophet brought it back and restored the church" a summary of <em>exactly</em> what a Mormon will tell you if you ask them the reason for their religion's existence. It's hammered into you over, and over, and over again. It's really, really important to Mormons. And the setting being built with that same assumption is really showing that the setting was built around the author's biases. </p><p></p><p>Mormons don't believe that the Native Americans they were familiar with had chariots. They believe that technology was lost after the Nephites died. </p><p></p><p>And I wasn't saying that the 12 tribes of Israel are specifically Mormon, I was noting that Mormons are the only "major" religion that believes in a connection between the lost tribes of Israel and Native Americans. So having the setting's version of Native Americans have 12 tribes is a connection (a small and tenuous connection, but it's still there). </p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p>tl;dr - Dragonlance is absolutely based heavily on major parts of Mormon doctrine, coming from someone that was Mormon for 18 years</p><p></p><p>Anyway, how did this line of discussion get started? What point were either of us trying to make? Because I don't remember.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8748549, member: 7023887"] [SPOILER="To Avoid Overtaking the Thread"] The medium is important because it's a big part of Mormon doctrine. Ancient texts written on precious metal that bring back the old, dead, true religion that grants healing powers after over a thousand years of dark ages is a huge similarity that Dragonlance has with Mormon doctrine. You don't just stumble into that. And the link between having metal plates conveying important information isn't unique to Dragonlance, either. Mistborn uses that too, and those books' author, Brandon Sanderson, is also openly Mormon. The medium the old religion is brought back is important if it has a ton of direct parallels to Mormon doctrine and multiple popular Mormon fantasy authors have used metal plates with crucial information engraved in them shows that it's a common link. No, but Mormons believe in the Flood. I was demonstrating that major aspects of the books were inspired by at least one of the author's religious beliefs. (Former.) Yeah. But my personal experience in this matter makes me qualified to analyze whether or not the books have Mormon ties. Which it definitely does. Pretty major aspects of the novels and setting are directly inspired by Mormon beliefs. Not what I was saying. I was just showing that divine magic with the power of healing and raising the dead being lost for a millenium until a blonde-haired, blue-eyed prophet brought it back was an obvious tie. Maybe none of the things I listed are [I]exclusively[/I] Mormon, but a lot of them are [I]especially[/I] Mormon. And, pardon the assumption, but I'm guessing you're not very familiar with Mormonism beyond possibly briefly interacting with some and reading a few Wikipedia articles/internet posts about it. Again, this is a core aspect of Mormon theology. It's basically the first thing missionaries teach you when they start trying to convert you, and they repeat it all of the time at church. "The true religion died 2 thousand years ago when we lost the priesthood/healing magic, and a new prophet brought it back and restored the church" a summary of [I]exactly[/I] what a Mormon will tell you if you ask them the reason for their religion's existence. It's hammered into you over, and over, and over again. It's really, really important to Mormons. And the setting being built with that same assumption is really showing that the setting was built around the author's biases. Mormons don't believe that the Native Americans they were familiar with had chariots. They believe that technology was lost after the Nephites died. And I wasn't saying that the 12 tribes of Israel are specifically Mormon, I was noting that Mormons are the only "major" religion that believes in a connection between the lost tribes of Israel and Native Americans. So having the setting's version of Native Americans have 12 tribes is a connection (a small and tenuous connection, but it's still there). [/SPOILER] tl;dr - Dragonlance is absolutely based heavily on major parts of Mormon doctrine, coming from someone that was Mormon for 18 years Anyway, how did this line of discussion get started? What point were either of us trying to make? Because I don't remember. [/QUOTE]
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