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[Dragonlance/Faerun] Anyone here met any Cataclysm/Wall of the Faithless defenders?
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<blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 8114366" data-attributes="member: 6775477"><p>Something to bear in mind is the notion that the thought process of the gods is different than we can understand as a mortal. They see the long view of everything, while we can only see the short term. Divine violence, as you put it, may offend our modern sensibilities, but it can make sense for a fantasy setting. If a player or DM is uncomfortable with it, they should simply avoid it or change it (if a DM).</p><p></p><p>While I don't know much about the details of the Cataclysm, from the Time of the Twins we learned that the priesthood had become horribly corrupt. The gods were overall displeased with their arrogance, putting themselves on the same status as the gods themselves, and so sent warnings that were ignored. The final straw was when the pope equivalent (totally forget his name/title) demanded the gods of good give him the power to utterly destroy Evil. Not only did the mortal dare demand of a god, but the world of Krynn is based on a delicate balance between Good, Neutral, and Evil. These two major transgressions after many years/decades (centuries?) of corruption were too much for the gods to accept, even the gods of good.</p><p></p><p>The Wall of the Faithless makes sense, or at least it did back in AD&D (I don't know if they've made any changes to it). The souls of the dead arrive at the Fugue Plane where they await their god to arrive and take them to their eternal plane of existence. If you don't have a god, obviously you can't be picked up, so you belong to Bhall, the lord of the dead. Bhall being evil AF, created the wall of the faithless as a punishment for them. The ones who were unfaithful were instead tortured by Bhall and his fiends. This was the natural result of the Fugue Plane and the need for the gods to collect their faithful, with an evil god running the underworld. When Kellemvor (sp?) became the new lord of the dead, he stopped the building of the Wall, but could do little for the souls already made part of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shiroiken, post: 8114366, member: 6775477"] Something to bear in mind is the notion that the thought process of the gods is different than we can understand as a mortal. They see the long view of everything, while we can only see the short term. Divine violence, as you put it, may offend our modern sensibilities, but it can make sense for a fantasy setting. If a player or DM is uncomfortable with it, they should simply avoid it or change it (if a DM). While I don't know much about the details of the Cataclysm, from the Time of the Twins we learned that the priesthood had become horribly corrupt. The gods were overall displeased with their arrogance, putting themselves on the same status as the gods themselves, and so sent warnings that were ignored. The final straw was when the pope equivalent (totally forget his name/title) demanded the gods of good give him the power to utterly destroy Evil. Not only did the mortal dare demand of a god, but the world of Krynn is based on a delicate balance between Good, Neutral, and Evil. These two major transgressions after many years/decades (centuries?) of corruption were too much for the gods to accept, even the gods of good. The Wall of the Faithless makes sense, or at least it did back in AD&D (I don't know if they've made any changes to it). The souls of the dead arrive at the Fugue Plane where they await their god to arrive and take them to their eternal plane of existence. If you don't have a god, obviously you can't be picked up, so you belong to Bhall, the lord of the dead. Bhall being evil AF, created the wall of the faithless as a punishment for them. The ones who were unfaithful were instead tortured by Bhall and his fiends. This was the natural result of the Fugue Plane and the need for the gods to collect their faithful, with an evil god running the underworld. When Kellemvor (sp?) became the new lord of the dead, he stopped the building of the Wall, but could do little for the souls already made part of it. [/QUOTE]
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