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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 8114404" data-attributes="member: 14159">One of the unrealistic things about the Cataclysm was exactly what you said, that the Kingpriest was supposed to be a pinnacle of Lawful Good. . .but when he kept denying repeated visions, even to the point that the Avatar of Paladine appears to him personally to warn him just how wrong he is, and nothing dissuades him, it seems rather absurd.  I'll absolutely agree that a modern, liberal, secular worldview of religion is just plain NOT compatible with most D&D worlds.  When all it takes is a Plane Shift spell and you can visit the home of the Gods Themselves, when every random parish priest can perform miraculous wonders, and plenty of people have seen the Gods walk the Earth (for a generation after on Toril after the Time of Troubles, think how many people of weak or uncertain faith became True Believers after seeing the gods walk the world and do battle right before them).I don't like the Eberron approach though because I think it makes fantasy religion TOO realistic.  It reminds me of a set of quests in Dungeons and Dragons Online (mostly set in Eberron), where at a low level, you have to massacre a bunch of good-aligned followers of the Silver Flame, because a ranking bishop of the Sovereign Host has declared them heretics.  Then, later, you learn that Bishop was actually a Rakshasa, actively working to subvert the Church of the Sovereign Host to evil, like sending adventurers out to do evil deeds in the name of the Sovereign Host.If you play D&D to get away from real world troubles and strife, stuff like that is way too much a reminder of real-world problems that aren't matters for ENWorld.  Clear cut good and evil, fantasy religions that unambiguously exist and tend to be pretty unambiguously heroic or villainous with their deeds, those (at least in my opinion) help escapism a lot more than nuanced, realistic moral dilemmas that I can get just by reading the morning news or scrolling through Facebook.</blockquote>

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