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[Dragonlance/Faerun] Anyone here met any Cataclysm/Wall of the Faithless defenders?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 8115154" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>I tend to see D&D gods in a similar vein as the MCU Asgardians: they are more akin to an evolved and/or powerful immortal race than actually divine beings. Or one could say "divine beings" are just further along the evolutionary path. An overgod would be different, more akin to the Hindu Brahman of which all other gods exist within and/or as particular aspects.</p><p></p><p>I have no issue with either as intra-setting ideas. They have their own logic, and provide interesting stories as back-drops for the setting. Both seem kind of harsh in different ways, but I don't feel that judging the morality of fantasy gods is necessary or particularly fruitful. Speculative fiction is a game of "What If," not "let's make a world of dragons and elves that is dictated by my personal ideology." Unless that is the What If game you want to play.</p><p></p><p>I would also point out that our own world has myths of cataclysms and resulting stories of the gods punishing humanity. Ancient peoples, by and large, saw natural catastrophes as generated by the gods. Nothing was random or "just nature doing its thing." Assuming that the people of Krynn have a worldview closer to those of the ancients than modern humans, it makes sense that they would believe that the Cataclysm was caused by the gods. And of course the lore of Dragonlance says this is actually the case. Fantasy worlds are generally explorations of What If scenarios in which myths and legends are literally true.</p><p></p><p>That said, one could run a Dragonlance campaign in which the "actual truth" is unknown, and there are differing opinions. Individual DMs can make of the lore what they want. Perhaps the gods are actually "ascended" Irda. Or maybe Fizban/Paladine isn't actually a god, but the quasi-immortal high priest of the abstract principle "Paladine." Etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 8115154, member: 59082"] I tend to see D&D gods in a similar vein as the MCU Asgardians: they are more akin to an evolved and/or powerful immortal race than actually divine beings. Or one could say "divine beings" are just further along the evolutionary path. An overgod would be different, more akin to the Hindu Brahman of which all other gods exist within and/or as particular aspects. I have no issue with either as intra-setting ideas. They have their own logic, and provide interesting stories as back-drops for the setting. Both seem kind of harsh in different ways, but I don't feel that judging the morality of fantasy gods is necessary or particularly fruitful. Speculative fiction is a game of "What If," not "let's make a world of dragons and elves that is dictated by my personal ideology." Unless that is the What If game you want to play. I would also point out that our own world has myths of cataclysms and resulting stories of the gods punishing humanity. Ancient peoples, by and large, saw natural catastrophes as generated by the gods. Nothing was random or "just nature doing its thing." Assuming that the people of Krynn have a worldview closer to those of the ancients than modern humans, it makes sense that they would believe that the Cataclysm was caused by the gods. And of course the lore of Dragonlance says this is actually the case. Fantasy worlds are generally explorations of What If scenarios in which myths and legends are literally true. That said, one could run a Dragonlance campaign in which the "actual truth" is unknown, and there are differing opinions. Individual DMs can make of the lore what they want. Perhaps the gods are actually "ascended" Irda. Or maybe Fizban/Paladine isn't actually a god, but the quasi-immortal high priest of the abstract principle "Paladine." Etc. [/QUOTE]
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