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[Dragonlance/Faerun] Anyone here met any Cataclysm/Wall of the Faithless defenders?
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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 8115167" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>If anything, it's "like attracts like." It's not that evil souls are thrown into the Nine Hells of Baator as some kind of punishment, it's that souls that are evil and lawful naturally gravitate there, where other evil and chaotic energies flow. Deities live there because the outer planes are the places of metaphysics and belief, where Gods can live far more easily, and where souls naturally go. It's more like a law of nature than a system of punishment.</p><p></p><p>"Hell is other people" as I've heard it called, or a cut scene from the movie Dogma, with the demon Azrael explaining that originally Hell was simply the absence of God, which to an angel (or a demon, being a fallen angel in that setting) would be torment enough, but human souls started arriving there, and a place where all the angry, tormented, guilty, generally awful human souls arrived turned an unpleasant tormenting place into something far worse just by being full of tormented souls, with no need for the demons themselves to do anything else on top of that.</p><p></p><p>The Fugue Plane is simply a demiplane set up by Ao in Realmspace for the orderly processing of souls, so that they get handed off to the right pantheon (or to other planes or pantheons as appropriate), and they only end up Faithless if no deity will take them because they completely forsook all deities in life and there isn't one in Realmspace that would take them (and not one apparent outside Realmspace they could be handed to either). . .and only end up False if they completely betrayed the tenets of their faith in life. . .not simply making errors or shortcomings any mortal could make, but serious and total hypocrisy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 8115167, member: 14159"] If anything, it's "like attracts like." It's not that evil souls are thrown into the Nine Hells of Baator as some kind of punishment, it's that souls that are evil and lawful naturally gravitate there, where other evil and chaotic energies flow. Deities live there because the outer planes are the places of metaphysics and belief, where Gods can live far more easily, and where souls naturally go. It's more like a law of nature than a system of punishment. "Hell is other people" as I've heard it called, or a cut scene from the movie Dogma, with the demon Azrael explaining that originally Hell was simply the absence of God, which to an angel (or a demon, being a fallen angel in that setting) would be torment enough, but human souls started arriving there, and a place where all the angry, tormented, guilty, generally awful human souls arrived turned an unpleasant tormenting place into something far worse just by being full of tormented souls, with no need for the demons themselves to do anything else on top of that. The Fugue Plane is simply a demiplane set up by Ao in Realmspace for the orderly processing of souls, so that they get handed off to the right pantheon (or to other planes or pantheons as appropriate), and they only end up Faithless if no deity will take them because they completely forsook all deities in life and there isn't one in Realmspace that would take them (and not one apparent outside Realmspace they could be handed to either). . .and only end up False if they completely betrayed the tenets of their faith in life. . .not simply making errors or shortcomings any mortal could make, but serious and total hypocrisy. [/QUOTE]
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