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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8126478" data-attributes="member: 6801228">The bolded is really the key here isn't it? What happens if you insult Mystra? Nothing. Maybe if you are in her temple or something she might take notice, but followers of different divine beings insult each other all the time. Killing her followers? Nothing. The churches war with each other all the time. What happens if you don't worship Mystra? Nothing, as long as you worship some other god.What happens if you don't worship any of them? Your soul is mortared into the Wall until it is ground to dust for your crimes. And remember the wall was made before the Gods fed off of mortal worship, so it was a punishment for a crime that had no consequence. Choosing not to worship the Gods had about as much impact on your and the world's daily life as prefering coffee over tea. And yet, it is punished. There are far greater insults you can give the Gods, and no special punishment for them, but if  you choose not to take part in the rituals of worship, if you chose to not pray, if you choose to not revere any god at all.... that is what gets a special horrific punishment? It simply breaks logic, it doesn't make sense, and it leads to so many problems in the afterlives. What about the Gith? They do not worship gods, the Githzerai worship no one and the Githyanki worship a Lich-Queen. What about those who worship the Aboleths or Mindflayers? If you were a mental slave to the Mindflayers since birth, worshipping them as your god, you get put in the wall? What about the Kuo-Toa? They make their own gods by worshipping random things, how did that work that they could worship "not gods" but create gods which then I suppose gets them around the Wall. The more people who can find who wouldn't worship the Gods, the weirder and weirder the wall appears to be.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Look, you can believe that the Wall is an example of FR "daring to have something special" but a stupid idea is a stupid idea. And there are plenty of "special" ideas and aspects of various settings that I do like, and plenty of bog-standard choices that I find tedious and boring.We are never told. Does what Jergal used to do matter for what Myrkul did do and what Kelemvor is continuing to do? i don't really see how.Well, if you are right then AO is an idiot who basically did the same thing as telling a bunch of humans "As punishment for not doing your jobs, you now have to eat food to survive." I mean, cool man, I had to do that anyways, so that is less a punishment and more just a crazy guy yelling at me for no reason. Maybe if we were really bad he'd tell us we have to breath air too. So, since AO is not supposed to be that incompetent, stupid, and ineffectual, I think it makes far more sense to take the stated lore of the game at its word. Before the Time of Troubles, the Gods did not require the worship of mortals. Afterwards, they did, and that was a result of AO punishing them.</blockquote>

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