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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 8128674" data-attributes="member: 58416">Am I responding as a player or am I responding as a character?That's true. Though, I dug out some of my old 3E books. Allegedly, it's completely fine to die (or be dying) and decide in that moment that you want to believe (enough) in a deity to not be forced into the wall. As far as knowing if I'm lying? There are easy to acquire magic items and class features which make it so others cannot accurately divine my thoughts. Besides, this is why I would employ some disgruntled angels and devils. Further thoughts: Smuggling people through the Wall as a supernatural coyote could be lucrative. In a game where the Wall and supernatural politics (or the afterlife) matter, I do not see it as being outside the scope of the game to have character goals which relate to the Wall.A lot of things could be done without the Wall. It's not a feature of games in which I have played. At the same time, I do not believe the concept is inherently bad. I somewhat agree that the implementation of the idea is bad, but the concept isn't (I believe) bad by default. </blockquote>

[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 8128674, member: 58416"] [COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]Am I responding as a player or am I responding as a character?[/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]That's true. Though, I dug out some of my old 3E books. Allegedly, it's completely fine to die (or be dying) and decide in that moment that you want to believe (enough) in a deity to not be forced into the wall. As far as knowing if I'm lying? There are easy to acquire magic items and class features which make it so others cannot accurately divine my thoughts. Besides, this is why I would employ some disgruntled angels and devils. Further thoughts: Smuggling people through the Wall as a supernatural coyote could be lucrative. [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]In a game where the Wall and supernatural politics (or the afterlife) matter, I do not see it as being outside the scope of the game to have character goals which relate to the Wall.[/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]A lot of things could be done without the Wall. It's not a feature of games in which I have played. At the same time, I do not believe the concept is inherently bad. I somewhat agree that the implementation of the idea is bad, but the concept isn't (I believe) bad by default. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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