Dragonlance Thoughts

[klofft]

*bump* to get an answer to my questions.

 

[Nepenthe]

1) Is the crunch in the different campaign era supplements (of which I believe there are 3?) mutually exclusive? I.e., does any of it supercede other stuff in such a way that only one version is mechanically viable?

Not 100% sure of what you mean... some of the classes have been updated from previous books, but those are more related to the order in which the books themselves came out than any particular era. That said, some of the eras do limit a bit the classes you can use.

2) Was there a specific book that was a 3.5 update of the DLCS? (If it needed one - I'm not sure.)

DLCS is officially 3.5e. Some of the classes have been updated (solamnic knights in knightly orders, wizards of high sorcery in towers of high sorcery, mariner in legends of the twins), but those are updates based on player feedback and not edition-related (ie. no references to non-existent skills).

3) As I love divine stuff specifically, what other book besides Orders of the Stars (I think I have that title right) might you recommend?

Well, holy orders of the stars is your best bet. Knightly orders of ansalon has some classes with divine ability, but I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

4) I also love substitution levels. What book might have a high concentration of those?

That would be Knightly orders of Ansalon. I think they're moving more towards alternative class features in Races of Ansalon, but that's just my guess based on bits and pieces at the DL forums.

/N

edit: solamnics were updated in knightly orders, not holy orders as I originally had written. My bad.

 

[Cam Banks]

Nepenthe hit most of the right notes. One example of a rules element that got upgraded between era sourcebooks is the mariner class, which first appeared in Age of Mortals and was revised in Legends of the Twins. Age of Mortals was our first book after the DLCS was released and we were all still working with pre-release copies of the 3.5 rules, so there's some awkwardness to it. Some of the prestige classes in AoM were replaced later on by substitution levels or were revised altogether (Knightly Orders of Ansalon is what I'm thinking of here).

There is a lot to pilfer from in the upcoming Races of Ansalon. We have racial classes, alternative class features, some prestige classes, and new races such as the half-gnome and half-goblin. It's probably the most hard-core of all of our sourcebooks to date, and yet it has no stat blocks at all (which I think is a first).

Cheers,
Cam

 

[klofft]

Thanks for the replies. One last question (I think) and I'll be quiet.

Is there any older sourcebook that has had its crunch almost entirely updated such that it pretty much only exists as a fluff book now? Age of Mortals seems like it took more than a couple hits in that regard according to what you wrote above.

Again, thanks for your time. It's made my purchasing prospects much more informed!

C

 

[Nepenthe]

Thanks for the replies. One last question (I think) and I'll be quiet.

Is there any older sourcebook that has had its crunch almost entirely updated such that it pretty much only exists as a fluff book now? Age of Mortals seems like it took more than a couple hits in that regard according to what you wrote above.

Again, thanks for your time. It's made my purchasing prospects much more informed!

C

I wouldn't go so far as to say any of the books has been entirely updated. The DLCS and AoM have had most updates (due to being the first two out), but both of them still have some fairly critical stuff.

/N

 

[Banshee16]

Nepenthe hit most of the right notes. One example of a rules element that got upgraded between era sourcebooks is the mariner class, which first appeared in Age of Mortals and was revised in Legends of the Twins. Age of Mortals was our first book after the DLCS was released and we were all still working with pre-release copies of the 3.5 rules, so there's some awkwardness to it. Some of the prestige classes in AoM were replaced later on by substitution levels or were revised altogether (Knightly Orders of Ansalon is what I'm thinking of here).

There is a lot to pilfer from in the upcoming Races of Ansalon. We have racial classes, alternative class features, some prestige classes, and new races such as the half-gnome and half-goblin. It's probably the most hard-core of all of our sourcebooks to date, and yet it has no stat blocks at all (which I think is a first).

Cheers,
Cam

Any Irda love? I've been hoping the book would have some kind of prestige class or feat chain or whatever to simulate the Changer Adept and Changer Savants from 2nd Ed. As it stands, the best match I can seem to find would be to use the Skinchanger from Green Ronin's "Shaman" classbook, in order to get Wildshape, and then get Master of Many Forms from Complete Adventurer.

Also...Dargonesti and Theiwar? Those are all some of my favourite races...

Oh, and those Karnuthians dudes...the fellows who can turn into panthers..?

Banshee

 

[Son_of_Thunder]

It's true that the world has undergone some changes and that it might be hard to catch up. I had to catch up myself several years back.

What I would recommend would be to play a War of the Lance era game. That way, you don't have to worry about where the world has gone.

I'll second this. It's what has kept me sane with DL.

 

[hong]

I always wondered, why dragon _lance_? It's just a stick. Why not dragon club? Nothing says pwnage more than beating a dragon to death, medieval-style. Or dragon glaive, for the naginata fans? And once we've started with the polearms, we could also have dragon guisarme, dragon voulge, dragon glaive-guisarme, dragon glaive-voulge, dragon glaive-glaive I'LL COME IN AGAIN