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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 3238207" data-attributes="member: 2477">Except for that whole, I dunno, MAKING WARFORGED thing.I guess that's the normal duty for every random guy with a Mark of Making. Running a hidden Creation Forge. It's obvious to me that Lei's interactions with the House leadership is based on her parents being powerful members. If you don't see that, then perhaps we did read different books.You're mixing togethor what she knows with what the folks in charge believe/know. She's not a threat because she has a mark, but because of who her parents were, or might have been.The magical ability predisposes them to an important position, just as being an artificer or other PC class would put them ahead of the Commoner or Expert. House Sivis doesn't man each Speaking Stone with a Merchant Prince, but with a Dragonmarked member of the house.Right, and they're not the ones targeting her, that's sort of my point. There are certain unbreakable edicts (excoriation must be followed through, for the most part. No Mixing Marks. No betraying the secret gnome conspiracy that rules Khorvaire.) but by no means is every member of the house being excoriated randomly.Dane was a member of a mercenary house, and left without real penalty.Again, it seems to confuse what the character was raised to believe is their duty (must join Corps, must marry who House says) with what is practical and actually part of House policy.It's not so simply stated as that though. She doesn't know why something is happening to her, obviously such interaction is abnormal for the "regular housemember" she thinks she is. It's also obvious that others consider her differently.No, my point is simply that those predisposed to considering the Houses too monolithic will look for references that reinforce that as they read, while those that don't will form a different view. You read the material with a bias, just as I do or anyone else does.Nyah, that was a seperate thing. JUst saying that I disagree that GRRM's characters are any better developed than KB's.Sort of, he created the initial kernel, and it has been expanded since then. Even before the core book was published, others had a hand in it. I agree he's probably the singularly most influential figure of course. (Greenwood to FR, Gygax to GH, as it were.)</blockquote>

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