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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3677557" data-attributes="member: 29014">The 5 feet isn't the issue--the comparison to Dash is flawed.&nbsp; Even if it gave you no feet of movement and broke full attacks, it would be broken.&nbsp; Let's consider and I'll even ignore the special movement but just take into account the ability to break full attacks--Orien Scion versus bad-tempered Grizzly Bear.&nbsp; Orien Scion has AC 21.&nbsp; Grizzly Bear uses Claw/Claw/Bite for 17.05 average damage.&nbsp; Now give her Battle Stride.&nbsp; Damage goes down to 11.6545.&nbsp; That's the same result as if you got +3 to all types of AC.&nbsp; It gets even more powerful if you have some sort of Miss Chance (say the one provided by the handy Blink ability from the PrC, for instance).&nbsp; Let's say our Orien Scion is facing off against a tough opponent.&nbsp; An Old Red Dragon.&nbsp; She has 32 AC now.&nbsp; Without the feat or Blink, she takes 2d8+12/2d8+12/4d6+6/2d6+6/2d6+6/2d8+6 damage.&nbsp; It totals up to 97.85 damage.&nbsp; And she perishes as she should against a CR 20 Dragon.&nbsp; Her Blink ability will halve that to 48.925.&nbsp; Okay, without the feat, that's not too bad.&nbsp; But watch this!With the feat and no Blink, she gets 87.724 damage.&nbsp; This time, it's equivalent to a +2 AC bonus from the no-feat and no-Blink situation.&nbsp; But here's where it gets absurd.&nbsp; With the feat and Blink, the damage expectation is 18.005 damage.&nbsp; When you combined the two, it reduces the damage by nearly a factor of 3 from the initial Blink.&nbsp; In fact, the damage is only 18.4% of the starting damage.&nbsp; That's about halfway between the benefit of gaining +15 and +16 AC!&nbsp; Zounds!&nbsp; Compare this to other feats <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3677557, member: 29014"] The 5 feet isn't the issue--the comparison to Dash is flawed. Even if it gave you no feet of movement and broke full attacks, it would be broken. Let's consider and I'll even ignore the special movement but just take into account the ability to break full attacks--Orien Scion versus bad-tempered Grizzly Bear. Orien Scion has AC 21. Grizzly Bear uses Claw/Claw/Bite for 17.05 average damage. Now give her Battle Stride. Damage goes down to 11.6545. That's the same result as if you got +3 to all types of AC. It gets even more powerful if you have some sort of Miss Chance (say the one provided by the handy Blink ability from the PrC, for instance). Let's say our Orien Scion is facing off against a tough opponent. An Old Red Dragon. She has 32 AC now. Without the feat or Blink, she takes 2d8+12/2d8+12/4d6+6/2d6+6/2d6+6/2d8+6 damage. It totals up to 97.85 damage. And she perishes as she should against a CR 20 Dragon. Her Blink ability will halve that to 48.925. Okay, without the feat, that's not too bad. But watch this! With the feat and no Blink, she gets 87.724 damage. This time, it's equivalent to a +2 AC bonus from the no-feat and no-Blink situation. But here's where it gets absurd. With the feat and Blink, the damage expectation is 18.005 damage. When you combined the two, it reduces the damage by nearly a factor of 3 from the initial Blink. In fact, the damage is only 18.4% of the starting damage. That's about halfway between the benefit of gaining +15 and +16 AC! Zounds! Compare this to other feats ;) [/QUOTE]

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