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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 2880031" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>Part of the reasons Dragons might appear not to be as tough is simply that they are only once creature. This means they have a lot less actions per round than the PCs, and once the dragon is forced to react rather than act, he is in trouble. I think that is a problem that all encounters have when you use only a single opponent. </p><p></p><p>Despite being a very dangerous opponent in melee combat (thanks to 7 or more attacks per round), flying is often a better option. </p><p>Their spellcasting is laughable (IMO) if you think offensively, but their buff and defense spells are nice. With 2 1st level spells, they can increase their AC by 8 points. (Which makes it very important for Spellcasters to cast Dispel MAgic at a prepared dragon). </p><p></p><p>A typical problem is that the game is also Dungeons & Dragons. This means most encounters with Dragons happen in a dungeon enviroment, and everybody expects dragons to be a threat, therefore dragon strength and weaknesses are well-known. Everybody knows that a Dragon is dangerous, and will act accordingly. </p><p>The dungeon enviroment isn't really a enviroment where the dragon can use one of its strength - flight. A Dragons maneuverability is poor or clumsy, making it unusable in all except the largest rooms. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, a Dragon that can attack his opponents in a fairly plain enviroment (even a forest is acceptable) willl have the upper hand, as long as not all of the characters can fly (and even then, most spells and abilities grant only slow flight speeds compared to a dragon).</p><p></p><p>The Dragon CR for HD package is very good. A Dragon has more HD than its CR, and these HDs come packed with d12 HP, full BAB, good saving throws, and plenty of skill points.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 2880031, member: 710"] Part of the reasons Dragons might appear not to be as tough is simply that they are only once creature. This means they have a lot less actions per round than the PCs, and once the dragon is forced to react rather than act, he is in trouble. I think that is a problem that all encounters have when you use only a single opponent. Despite being a very dangerous opponent in melee combat (thanks to 7 or more attacks per round), flying is often a better option. Their spellcasting is laughable (IMO) if you think offensively, but their buff and defense spells are nice. With 2 1st level spells, they can increase their AC by 8 points. (Which makes it very important for Spellcasters to cast Dispel MAgic at a prepared dragon). A typical problem is that the game is also Dungeons & Dragons. This means most encounters with Dragons happen in a dungeon enviroment, and everybody expects dragons to be a threat, therefore dragon strength and weaknesses are well-known. Everybody knows that a Dragon is dangerous, and will act accordingly. The dungeon enviroment isn't really a enviroment where the dragon can use one of its strength - flight. A Dragons maneuverability is poor or clumsy, making it unusable in all except the largest rooms. On the other hand, a Dragon that can attack his opponents in a fairly plain enviroment (even a forest is acceptable) willl have the upper hand, as long as not all of the characters can fly (and even then, most spells and abilities grant only slow flight speeds compared to a dragon). The Dragon CR for HD package is very good. A Dragon has more HD than its CR, and these HDs come packed with d12 HP, full BAB, good saving throws, and plenty of skill points. [/QUOTE]
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