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<blockquote data-quote="fl8m" data-source="post: 988327" data-attributes="member: 1701">ok when a dragon decides to execute a crush attack A crush attack affects as many creatures as can fit under the dragons body. Creatures in the affected area must succeed at a reflex save against a DC equal to that of the dragon's breath weapon or be pinned, automatically taking bludgeoning damage during the next round unless the dragon moves off them. If the dragon chooses to maintain the pin, treat it as a normal grapple attack. Pinned opponents take crush damage each round if they don't escape. ok so if the dragon drops out of the sky and you make your reflex save do you still take damage the first round, but aren't pinned?or do you just avoid all damage. also say the dragon decides to stay on top of the 4 poor people he just fell on does he make 4 different grapple checks? and how do they break down after the first attempt? does he just take a -5 per attempt? and does grappling 4 opponents at once effect his checks?thanks for any help <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="fl8m, post: 988327, member: 1701"] ok when a dragon decides to execute a crush attack A crush attack affects as many creatures as can fit under the dragons body. Creatures in the affected area must succeed at a reflex save against a DC equal to that of the dragon's breath weapon or be pinned, automatically taking bludgeoning damage during the next round unless the dragon moves off them. If the dragon chooses to maintain the pin, treat it as a normal grapple attack. Pinned opponents take crush damage each round if they don't escape. ok so if the dragon drops out of the sky and you make your reflex save do you still take damage the first round, but aren't pinned? or do you just avoid all damage. also say the dragon decides to stay on top of the 4 poor people he just fell on does he make 4 different grapple checks? and how do they break down after the first attempt? does he just take a -5 per attempt? and does grappling 4 opponents at once effect his checks? thanks for any help :) [/QUOTE]

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