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Message: <blockquote data-quote="A'koss" data-source="post: 3006315" data-attributes="member: 840">Now I knew that a topic like this would likely generate some strong opinions - it is the Dragon we're talking about here after all, but first and foremost - I didn't post this to tell anyone how to run their game. I'm simply interested in knowing what the general consensus was on how Dragons are being portrayed in 3e and maybe generate some lively discussion.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> Now I don't believe that magic and Dragons is necessarily a bad thing but when I look at the tactics of the aforementioned Black Dragon it seems entirely un-Dragon-like. Here's an enormous, awesomely powerful flying creature spell-buffing itself up and teleporting around the battlefield. Hmmm... :\ Now if you look at the 3e dragon, they have a number of spell-like abilities that are, generally, in keeping with the dragon's flavor. If they're going to have innate magical ability, making sure it's appropriate with its theme I think is important.Again, this is just how I feel about it. Looking at first edition, yes some Dragons could cast spells, but for the chromatics (the dragons most PCs end up fighting) it was more likely not than so. Even for the mighty red it was only a 40% chance and the most ancient red that could... only cast two 1-4th level spells. My feeling (again, just mine) is that I wish that spellcasting Dragons weren't the default assumption. Allow it to take class levels in Sorcerer, Wizard or whatever - fine, there's your spellcasting dragon. But when I think of classic, iconic western Dragon, they are monsters in truest sense. I don't believe that you need those spellcasting levels to take on higher level heroes if you build the dragon to make the very most of it's "natural" abilities.Take the black dragon for example. - Fly, then drop to the ground to create a minor earthquake (or at least enough to knock PCs off their feet)- Throw, kick and create hurricane-like winds with it's wing buffet sending attackers all over the battlefield (damage and prone and possibly stunned).- Use acid breath to create terrain hazards - pools and channels of acid emiting acidic, noxious clouds....etc.I'm sure anyone with the time could come up with all kinds of ways to make the most out of the talents they already have.Just my 2 bits.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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