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<blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 3009450" data-attributes="member: 9254"><p>In the interest of pedantism: There is a 9mm Magnum round; 9x29.5 produced by Winchester and AMT in the late 70s. And an electrically operated gatling gun is a fully automatic revolver. Load one with 9x29.5 and you have a fully automatic 9mm magnum revolver. </p><p></p><p>Haakon's point (which I'm not sure I agree with) is that the layered template approach that could yeild a half-dragon/half-robot mystic theurge ninja is internally consistent to 3.x. If you substitute "construct" for "robot" you can have a half-dragon, construct mystic theurge ninja if you have a half-dragon (or dragon disciple) who takes levels in ninja, sorceror, cleric & mystic theurge as well as the GreenStar Adept (?) from Complete Arcane. Sure, it's like 20th level but completely viable mechanically. </p><p></p><p>Trouble is it tastes funny; like chocolate-covered liver&onion burritos. It isn't poison but it really isn't what anyone expects. </p><p></p><p>I'm not entirely sure the "spellcaster dragon" defeats many fantasy views of dragons as long as all that spellcasting goes on "off camera." Sure, the party may defeat the dragon's "mystic defenses" thanks to the mage but the dragon's magic really just augments their innate ability to slaughter foes with tooth, claw, and breath weapon. </p><p></p><p>Don't like it? Add more HD and take away the spells. Poof, the dragon now has more natural armor, hit points, stat points, BAB and damage. Which is pretty much what the spells do except this can't be dispelled. Add in the Epic Feats and the dragon should have enough special abilities to still be quite fearsome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kigmatzomat, post: 3009450, member: 9254"] In the interest of pedantism: There is a 9mm Magnum round; 9x29.5 produced by Winchester and AMT in the late 70s. And an electrically operated gatling gun is a fully automatic revolver. Load one with 9x29.5 and you have a fully automatic 9mm magnum revolver. Haakon's point (which I'm not sure I agree with) is that the layered template approach that could yeild a half-dragon/half-robot mystic theurge ninja is internally consistent to 3.x. If you substitute "construct" for "robot" you can have a half-dragon, construct mystic theurge ninja if you have a half-dragon (or dragon disciple) who takes levels in ninja, sorceror, cleric & mystic theurge as well as the GreenStar Adept (?) from Complete Arcane. Sure, it's like 20th level but completely viable mechanically. Trouble is it tastes funny; like chocolate-covered liver&onion burritos. It isn't poison but it really isn't what anyone expects. I'm not entirely sure the "spellcaster dragon" defeats many fantasy views of dragons as long as all that spellcasting goes on "off camera." Sure, the party may defeat the dragon's "mystic defenses" thanks to the mage but the dragon's magic really just augments their innate ability to slaughter foes with tooth, claw, and breath weapon. Don't like it? Add more HD and take away the spells. Poof, the dragon now has more natural armor, hit points, stat points, BAB and damage. Which is pretty much what the spells do except this can't be dispelled. Add in the Epic Feats and the dragon should have enough special abilities to still be quite fearsome. [/QUOTE]
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