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<blockquote data-quote="Wolv0rine" data-source="post: 558422" data-attributes="member: 9045"><p>Okay, okay, Malessa's just too gung-ho. I know Liquide can take him some creative crits, so just to balance things out, I'll shoot it down (because he already knows I dig the pic, hehe)</p><p></p><p>1. This is a personal preference thing, but I think the horns atop his head are too short. They look more like bony ridges than horns.</p><p>2. The cheek frill bothers me a bit, I think it's because it's underdeveloped. Give just a hint more impression of the individual spires that end in spurs.</p><p>3. The foreground wing's humorous bone doesn't meet up with the shoulder, it looks dislocated.</p><p>4. Foreground foreleg, from the 'elbow' down this looks great, but I get the impression that this humorous is too short by just a wee bit, because I have to look to see that the anatomy here isn't shoulder-elbow-forearm-claw.</p><p>5. Fromthe point where the tail bends, it begins to become distorted, at one point the line just wavers and creates a bulge in the lower-tail.</p><p>6. The wings, I think, are too structured in their texture. There's this impression of taut leather (as there should be), from the lines, but they are too symetrical.</p><p></p><p>Now, I do like this pic. Here is what I DO like</p><p>1. On the whole, it stands up well. Forms and structure are mostly in proportion to each other, and it fills the negative space very well.</p><p>2. The head itself has a good shape, not over-done, not under-done. More draconic to my eye than any other dragon I've seen Liquide do.</p><p>3. The neck, in thickness, length, and scale-pattern -- this is a grand dragon neck. It connects to the head, and the shoulders (and before anyone calls that a backhanded compliment, look at some dragon pics. So many don't do that).</p><p>4. The outline of the wings is superb. This is their size, mass, and overall shape. These wings could lift this dragon (even if it does have 2 sets of biceps, hehe)</p><p>5. The claws are very nice. In specific, the claws that are bearing the dragon's weight are very nice. It would be easy to stop and point and say "Hey, here are three dozen tips for making those claws look like they are <strong>really</strong> bearin that weight!", but darnit I like 'em.</p><p>6. The subtle shading of the musculature. I like this technique, although I think it's just a hair too light. We need a slightly darker line, with a bit of shading gradiation blending it into the hide, but I like how muted it is now too.</p><p></p><p>Overall... we know that Liquide's got a solid handle on the theoretical anatomy, the man's practically written a treatise on it for us. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> And, while I disagree on a few points, he sticks to his own rules, and that provides a level of internal consistency that is supporting of each piece.</p><p></p><p>Okay, that's enough, I just don't want your head to swell up with praise so much that you don't improve, mate. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>((BTW, this is the full-body dragon, not the head-only))</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolv0rine, post: 558422, member: 9045"] Okay, okay, Malessa's just too gung-ho. I know Liquide can take him some creative crits, so just to balance things out, I'll shoot it down (because he already knows I dig the pic, hehe) 1. This is a personal preference thing, but I think the horns atop his head are too short. They look more like bony ridges than horns. 2. The cheek frill bothers me a bit, I think it's because it's underdeveloped. Give just a hint more impression of the individual spires that end in spurs. 3. The foreground wing's humorous bone doesn't meet up with the shoulder, it looks dislocated. 4. Foreground foreleg, from the 'elbow' down this looks great, but I get the impression that this humorous is too short by just a wee bit, because I have to look to see that the anatomy here isn't shoulder-elbow-forearm-claw. 5. Fromthe point where the tail bends, it begins to become distorted, at one point the line just wavers and creates a bulge in the lower-tail. 6. The wings, I think, are too structured in their texture. There's this impression of taut leather (as there should be), from the lines, but they are too symetrical. Now, I do like this pic. Here is what I DO like 1. On the whole, it stands up well. Forms and structure are mostly in proportion to each other, and it fills the negative space very well. 2. The head itself has a good shape, not over-done, not under-done. More draconic to my eye than any other dragon I've seen Liquide do. 3. The neck, in thickness, length, and scale-pattern -- this is a grand dragon neck. It connects to the head, and the shoulders (and before anyone calls that a backhanded compliment, look at some dragon pics. So many don't do that). 4. The outline of the wings is superb. This is their size, mass, and overall shape. These wings could lift this dragon (even if it does have 2 sets of biceps, hehe) 5. The claws are very nice. In specific, the claws that are bearing the dragon's weight are very nice. It would be easy to stop and point and say "Hey, here are three dozen tips for making those claws look like they are [b]really[/b] bearin that weight!", but darnit I like 'em. 6. The subtle shading of the musculature. I like this technique, although I think it's just a hair too light. We need a slightly darker line, with a bit of shading gradiation blending it into the hide, but I like how muted it is now too. Overall... we know that Liquide's got a solid handle on the theoretical anatomy, the man's practically written a treatise on it for us. :) And, while I disagree on a few points, he sticks to his own rules, and that provides a level of internal consistency that is supporting of each piece. Okay, that's enough, I just don't want your head to swell up with praise so much that you don't improve, mate. :) ((BTW, this is the full-body dragon, not the head-only)) [/QUOTE]
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