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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WhatGravitas" data-source="post: 3829204" data-attributes="member: 33132">Well, this assumes everybody in your group can use English books without getting completely confused. Well, I just hope F&S gets a better translator than Amigo last time.Generally, I'd agree. But with the PHB, at least for me, it's a different issue. Expansion books are added, so you can easily ignore the flavour, but the PHB is a groundwork.While it is easy for me, as a DM, to say "get these names out of my game", I have the problem that I need the "bad flavour" as a reference, whenever I need to look up the exact description.If I use something from a new book, I can easily pick up some stuff, type it into my PC, print it and put in our "big rules folder", as a DM-approved thing, while changing the name. But not so with the PHB, unless I want to rewrite the PHB.So basically, it's a problem with my (and my group's) usual playstyle, but the point is: The core books are the only books, you usually use wholesale. And granted, it's easy enough to ignore stuff like deities, because they're in their own chapter - but this bugs me a bit, because the "bad flavour" is attached to a rules element, making it necessary to refer to that, whenever I use it. And unlike a other flavour elements (like a class name), it is even attached to an often referenced element - something like a manoeuvre, that is actively used.I hope I could get my point across: It's not like I'm not buying 4E or will boycott it, I'm only a bit discontent, that the flavour is attached to a heavily referenced part of the rules, where the name is needed to identify the rules element (i.e. find it in the book).Cheers, LT.</blockquote>

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