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<blockquote data-quote="kengar" data-source="post: 837059" data-attributes="member: 3230"><p>OK, first the references:</p><p></p><p><em>Tanglefoot bag</em></p><p> </p><p><em>Net</em></p><p></p><p>Now, the situation:</p><p></p><p>IMC, the party is going up against a Young Adult Black Dragon (Size: Large). The need to kill it as part of a <em>geas</em>. They are currently concocting some wacko plan involving several tanglefoot bags attached to a net and dropping this on the dragon. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>Now, I don't want to stifle creative solutions to problems, and I honestly don't think this will hinder a dragon for very long, but I want to make some sense of this rules-wise before the encounter takes place.</p><p></p><p>Now, the basic effects of the TF bag and the net are similar (-2 attacks, -4 DEX). But here are the oddball issues I want to resolve:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What would the effect of multiple tanglefoot bags be?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What is the effect of the net and/or the bags on flight (and swimming) if the dragon is not immobilized, merely at half move?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What is the effect of the net not having a trailing rope? This wouldn't be a standard PHB weapon net, rather more like a large fishing net.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Would the effects of the net and the tanglefoot goo stack?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Would one STR check break all the bonds or would the dragon need to break each "bag's worth" of goo that caught it, then the net?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What kind of attack modifier would you give them for trying this? A melee net is an Exotic proficiency that none of them have, so a -4 seems a safe minimum.</li> </ul><p>I can ad hoc this in a lot of ways, but I was hoping for some feedback here before the session tonight so I could minimize the debate and stick to the action. Thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kengar, post: 837059, member: 3230"] OK, first the references: [i]Tanglefoot bag[/i] [i]Net[/i] Now, the situation: IMC, the party is going up against a Young Adult Black Dragon (Size: Large). The need to kill it as part of a [i]geas[/i]. They are currently concocting some wacko plan involving several tanglefoot bags attached to a net and dropping this on the dragon. :rolleyes: Now, I don't want to stifle creative solutions to problems, and I honestly don't think this will hinder a dragon for very long, but I want to make some sense of this rules-wise before the encounter takes place. Now, the basic effects of the TF bag and the net are similar (-2 attacks, -4 DEX). But here are the oddball issues I want to resolve: [list] [*]What would the effect of multiple tanglefoot bags be? [*]What is the effect of the net and/or the bags on flight (and swimming) if the dragon is not immobilized, merely at half move? [*]What is the effect of the net not having a trailing rope? This wouldn't be a standard PHB weapon net, rather more like a large fishing net. [*]Would the effects of the net and the tanglefoot goo stack? [*]Would one STR check break all the bonds or would the dragon need to break each "bag's worth" of goo that caught it, then the net? [*]What kind of attack modifier would you give them for trying this? A melee net is an Exotic proficiency that none of them have, so a -4 seems a safe minimum. [/list] I can ad hoc this in a lot of ways, but I was hoping for some feedback here before the session tonight so I could minimize the debate and stick to the action. Thanks. [/QUOTE]
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