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<blockquote data-quote="Xylix" data-source="post: 501689" data-attributes="member: 9089">The scientific method is the only proven method to result in consistent highly succesfull results.&nbsp;&nbsp; This method operates be constantly revaluating its own presumptions.If you want your method to be a good CR measurement you will have to do the same.&nbsp; Having conviction is good when standing before the players.&nbsp; Having conviction is good when presenting your ideas.&nbsp;&nbsp; Having so much conviction that you don't reanalyzing them on a discussion on that particular topic is very bad.If you aren't reanlyzing them you don't have a place in a dicussion pertaining specifically to reanlysis.&nbsp;&nbsp; That said, it does not mean YOUR end anyalysis might differ from others.As it was a single figher was using 90% of his resources.This means two fighers killing the creature twice as fast, and having double hp would use 25% of their resources.Following the same idea a party of four would use 6%.&nbsp; That is not a challenge according to the DM's manual.... Now remember those where SIMPLE fighers, well built ones might be even more dangerous, and as such the Black dragon would be even less effective.Or for most players.&nbsp; &nbsp; A Young black dragon is a challenge for a party of two fighters, that means you need to drop the CR 2 to 4 points.&nbsp; How much varies upon tests, and special abilities.&nbsp;&nbsp; I can't say what for sure, no lower than CR 6 though, and no higher than CR 8.&nbsp; Otherwise it will be no danger at all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xylix, post: 501689, member: 9089"] The scientific method is the only proven method to result in consistent highly succesfull results. This method operates be constantly revaluating its own presumptions. If you want your method to be a good CR measurement you will have to do the same. Having conviction is good when standing before the players. Having conviction is good when presenting your ideas. Having so much conviction that you don't reanalyzing them on a discussion on that particular topic is very bad. If you aren't reanlyzing them you don't have a place in a dicussion pertaining specifically to reanlysis. That said, it does not mean YOUR end anyalysis might differ from others. As it was a single figher was using 90% of his resources. This means two fighers killing the creature twice as fast, and having double hp would use 25% of their resources. Following the same idea a party of four would use 6%. That is not a challenge according to the DM's manual.... Now remember those where SIMPLE fighers, well built ones might be even more dangerous, and as such the Black dragon would be even less effective. Or for most players. A Young black dragon is a challenge for a party of two fighters, that means you need to drop the CR 2 to 4 points. How much varies upon tests, and special abilities. I can't say what for sure, no lower than CR 6 though, and no higher than CR 8. Otherwise it will be no danger at all. [/QUOTE]

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