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<blockquote data-quote="azmodean" data-source="post: 1994067" data-attributes="member: 26590">The monk using a two-handed weapon as an off-hand weapon is really a terminology problem with the system, I think of it as a &quot;secondary attack type&quot; and it clears everything right up.&nbsp; For instance an adult dragon typically has 5 &quot;off handed attacks&quot;&nbsp; (claw, claw, wing, wing, tail) It makes much more sense if you refer to them as secondary attacks.&nbsp; Er, I'll stop ranting now.The PHB FAQ has a bit about the monk and off hand weapons, what it boils down to is that since unarmed strikes do not require the use of the character's hands, any weapon wieldable by the character can be treated as an off-hand weapon (with appropriate penalties, of course) and alternately the character can wield a weapon normally and use an unarmed strike as an off-hand attack (with usual penalties, including half str bonus to damage)For clarification, here is what the character's attack options would look like:[sblock]BAB: +4Unarmed attack +7 1d6+3&nbsp; (4(bab)+2(str)+1(mighty fists))Flurry +5/+5 1d6+3&nbsp; (4(bab)+2(str)+1(mighty fists)-2(flurry))Chain +7 1d6+2 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(focus))Flurry with Chain +1/+1 unarmed 1d6+3 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(mighty fists)-2(flurry)-4(TWF with non-light weapon in off hand))and +1 chain 1d6+1 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(focus)-2(flurry)-4(TWF with non-light weapon as off hand attack))Chain and Unarmed +5 chain 1d6+2 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(focus)-2(TWF with light weapon in off hand))and+5 unarmed 1d6+2 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(mighty fists)-2(TWF with light weapon as off hand attack))Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Practiced Spellcaster, Exotic weapon proficiency(chain)[/sblock]You are certainly in your rights to not allow this if you want, in which case I'll drop the chain use.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="azmodean, post: 1994067, member: 26590"] The monk using a two-handed weapon as an off-hand weapon is really a terminology problem with the system, I think of it as a "secondary attack type" and it clears everything right up. For instance an adult dragon typically has 5 "off handed attacks" (claw, claw, wing, wing, tail) It makes much more sense if you refer to them as secondary attacks. Er, I'll stop ranting now. The PHB FAQ has a bit about the monk and off hand weapons, what it boils down to is that since unarmed strikes do not require the use of the character's hands, any weapon wieldable by the character can be treated as an off-hand weapon (with appropriate penalties, of course) and alternately the character can wield a weapon normally and use an unarmed strike as an off-hand attack (with usual penalties, including half str bonus to damage) For clarification, here is what the character's attack options would look like: [sblock]BAB: +4 Unarmed attack +7 1d6+3 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(mighty fists)) Flurry +5/+5 1d6+3 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(mighty fists)-2(flurry)) Chain +7 1d6+2 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(focus)) Flurry with Chain +1/+1 unarmed 1d6+3 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(mighty fists)-2(flurry)-4(TWF with non-light weapon in off hand)) and +1 chain 1d6+1 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(focus)-2(flurry)-4(TWF with non-light weapon as off hand attack)) Chain and Unarmed +5 chain 1d6+2 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(focus)-2(TWF with light weapon in off hand)) and+5 unarmed 1d6+2 (4(bab)+2(str)+1(mighty fists)-2(TWF with light weapon as off hand attack)) Feats: Two Weapon Fighting, Practiced Spellcaster, Exotic weapon proficiency(chain)[/sblock] You are certainly in your rights to not allow this if you want, in which case I'll drop the chain use. [/QUOTE]

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