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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6771481" data-attributes="member: 6775031">It's only controlled by the dual-wielder feat if you're using feats. It's one of the main reasons why we're not using them in my game. I think it's the same with that combat casting feat that's otherwise-required for an arcane fighter to use a shield or two weapons - if you're using feats, then the feat is necessary, but if you aren't using feats then it's within the realm of interpretation that anyone can just do it anyway.I see no reason to further penalize the Paladin and Barbarian when they're forced to attack at range, given that the short range on a javelin is so severe, and given that they're already denied the use of their magic swords in that situation. Saying that they're also limited to just one attack seems unnecessarily strict.Donning or doffing a shield requires an Action, as the Barbarian player discovered in our third session. There's not really a ton of room for abuse in the system, which is why I don't feel the need to strictly enforce that aspect of the action economy. It really just means that nobody is forced to drop a weapon instead of sheathing it, which was always one of my least-favorite parts of Pathfinder.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 6771481, member: 6775031"] It's only controlled by the dual-wielder feat [I]if[/I] you're using feats. It's one of the main reasons why we're not using them in my game. I think it's the same with that combat casting feat that's otherwise-required for an arcane fighter to use a shield or two weapons - if you're using feats, then the feat is necessary, but if you aren't using feats then it's within the realm of interpretation that anyone can just do it anyway. I see no reason to further penalize the Paladin and Barbarian when they're forced to attack at range, given that the short range on a javelin is so severe, and given that they're already denied the use of their magic swords in that situation. Saying that they're [I]also[/I] limited to just one attack seems unnecessarily strict. Donning or doffing a shield requires an Action, as the Barbarian player discovered in our third session. There's not really a ton of room for abuse in the system, which is why I don't feel the need to strictly enforce that aspect of the action economy. It really just means that nobody is forced to drop a weapon instead of sheathing it, which was always one of my least-favorite parts of Pathfinder. [/QUOTE]

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