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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9441374" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Because he doesn't display any awareness whatsoever of the specific ways in which their mores are dangerous and oppressive.</p><p></p><p>A disclaimer that you don't agree isn't the same as showing you understand the problems something would cause in a society, or how negative a god's behaviour might be. Particularly when you do explicitly show awareness of precisely that with Nekros.</p><p></p><p>It's funny because had he not mentioned Nekros, not highlighted this god was a BAD god and the others were not, I think it would have been easier to assume he was just highlighting the negatives of these gods. But he did effectively say "these gods are normal, this god is bad", which is uh, questionable to put it mildly.</p><p></p><p></p><p>When the designer themselves is describing something, and clearly not just reading paragraphs, but rather also talking about it, I absolutely want to hear about what the designer thinks about the god and the impacts they'd have on society and so on. This is essentially the "Director's Commentary" to some significant extent.</p><p></p><p>I also particularly want to hear why he's putting in these seemingly Dark Fantasy-style gods into a consciously heroic fantasy-style setting, when he quite correctly argued against doing that with classes! That's kind of my main problem here. If this was a consciously dark and oppressive setting, where progress and positivity were fought against, where no-one trusted anyone different to themselves and so on, I could see these two gods as described fitting right in. But he's describing a heroic fantasy setting - not a dystopian "dark world"/"World Where Sauron Won"-style deal. One of the defining traits of HEROIC fantasy as opposed to mere "fantasy" or dark fantasy or the like is that it's not that grey, it's not all "different perspectives". There is good, there is evil, and so on. It's not Joe Abercrombie-style stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9441374, member: 18"] Because he doesn't display any awareness whatsoever of the specific ways in which their mores are dangerous and oppressive. A disclaimer that you don't agree isn't the same as showing you understand the problems something would cause in a society, or how negative a god's behaviour might be. Particularly when you do explicitly show awareness of precisely that with Nekros. It's funny because had he not mentioned Nekros, not highlighted this god was a BAD god and the others were not, I think it would have been easier to assume he was just highlighting the negatives of these gods. But he did effectively say "these gods are normal, this god is bad", which is uh, questionable to put it mildly. When the designer themselves is describing something, and clearly not just reading paragraphs, but rather also talking about it, I absolutely want to hear about what the designer thinks about the god and the impacts they'd have on society and so on. This is essentially the "Director's Commentary" to some significant extent. I also particularly want to hear why he's putting in these seemingly Dark Fantasy-style gods into a consciously heroic fantasy-style setting, when he quite correctly argued against doing that with classes! That's kind of my main problem here. If this was a consciously dark and oppressive setting, where progress and positivity were fought against, where no-one trusted anyone different to themselves and so on, I could see these two gods as described fitting right in. But he's describing a heroic fantasy setting - not a dystopian "dark world"/"World Where Sauron Won"-style deal. One of the defining traits of HEROIC fantasy as opposed to mere "fantasy" or dark fantasy or the like is that it's not that grey, it's not all "different perspectives". There is good, there is evil, and so on. It's not Joe Abercrombie-style stuff. [/QUOTE]
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