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<blockquote data-quote="Garnfellow" data-source="post: 1216466" data-attributes="member: 1223"><p>Cataboligne, huh? I hadn't realized that this monster had been "officially" updated to 3.0. Very cool. IIRC, the cataboligne first appears in Gary Gygax's novel <em>Saga of Old City,</em> but I believe he left TSR before the AD&D stats were ever published. The demon (or a pretty close likeness) then pops up as a "Blue Demon" in the Necropolis adventure for Gygax's Dangerous Journeys RPG. The blue demon then got converted to 3.0 in Necromancer's version of Necropolis.</p><p></p><p>So I'm already sold and I've just read the monster type. As far as adding a song of suggestions ability, it seems like it would work well with her concept, and I don't think it would affect the CR significantly. Let's look at the numbers.</p><p></p><p>The Monster Handbook would peg the ability to use <em>suggestion</em> (3rd level spell) as a spell-like ability as the equivalent to adding a CR 2 monster to an encounter with Dreadwail. This alone isn't enough to move her CR up to 15. Making the ability a song (supernatural ability) adds another +1, as would making the ability usable at will, for a total ability CR of 4 -- still not enough to move her CR to 15. That seems a little too cheap for an at-will ability, but then again, how many times is she going to get a chance to use this in an average encounter?</p><p></p><p>That said, I think she'll be very dangerous even for a bunch of 10th level PCs, much less anything lower. The good thing about this monster concept (as I just found out in my own game), at least, is that even if the PCs do meet her ahead of schedule, she's got enough non-lethal tricks that give you an out to avoid a total party kill.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garnfellow, post: 1216466, member: 1223"] Cataboligne, huh? I hadn't realized that this monster had been "officially" updated to 3.0. Very cool. IIRC, the cataboligne first appears in Gary Gygax's novel [I]Saga of Old City,[/I] but I believe he left TSR before the AD&D stats were ever published. The demon (or a pretty close likeness) then pops up as a "Blue Demon" in the Necropolis adventure for Gygax's Dangerous Journeys RPG. The blue demon then got converted to 3.0 in Necromancer's version of Necropolis. So I'm already sold and I've just read the monster type. As far as adding a song of suggestions ability, it seems like it would work well with her concept, and I don't think it would affect the CR significantly. Let's look at the numbers. The Monster Handbook would peg the ability to use [I]suggestion[/I] (3rd level spell) as a spell-like ability as the equivalent to adding a CR 2 monster to an encounter with Dreadwail. This alone isn't enough to move her CR up to 15. Making the ability a song (supernatural ability) adds another +1, as would making the ability usable at will, for a total ability CR of 4 -- still not enough to move her CR to 15. That seems a little too cheap for an at-will ability, but then again, how many times is she going to get a chance to use this in an average encounter? That said, I think she'll be very dangerous even for a bunch of 10th level PCs, much less anything lower. The good thing about this monster concept (as I just found out in my own game), at least, is that even if the PCs do meet her ahead of schedule, she's got enough non-lethal tricks that give you an out to avoid a total party kill. [/QUOTE]
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