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<blockquote data-quote="cybertalus" data-source="post: 1397928" data-attributes="member: 4400"><p>This sounds broadly similar to something I recall reading about when I was going through my eastern philosophy phase. That's been a while, but I'll try to explain it as best I can (Astralpwka might find this idea a useful jumping off point for what he's trying to achieve as well).</p><p></p><p>The idea is that you learn to perceive yourself from an external point of view. You start by thinking of yourself in third person ("Talus is typing a message on ENWorld" instead of "I'm typing a message on ENWorld"). Over time you begin to see youself both from your own internal point of view and from the point of view of an external observer, almost as if you have awareness in two places. The two awarenesses don't necessarily remain active and alert at the same times, so your normal first person awareness could be sleeping, while your observer awareness remains conscious and actually watches you sleep. For those who are persuing enlightenment the goal is for eventually the first person awareness to dissipate, leaving only the observer awareness. It was this last part, where all that's left is the observer awareness, that seems similar to your dream.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I once had a conversation online with someone else whose dreams shifted around in a manner similar to what you described. This was in a forum where quite a few of us were analyzing our dreams and finding some meaning in them. This fellow posted about his shifting dreams, and commented that he'd always been of the belief that dreams don't have meaning, but are byproducts of the brain organizing itself and its data while we sleep. I couldn't disagree that being the case for him, but felt that for the ones of us who were getting meaning out of our dreams that something Jungian was going on.</p><p></p><p>And I've had the forgetting thing happen to me, though usually it happens when I'm thinking about a dream later in the day. But then I've also had it happen with non-dream thoughts as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cybertalus, post: 1397928, member: 4400"] This sounds broadly similar to something I recall reading about when I was going through my eastern philosophy phase. That's been a while, but I'll try to explain it as best I can (Astralpwka might find this idea a useful jumping off point for what he's trying to achieve as well). The idea is that you learn to perceive yourself from an external point of view. You start by thinking of yourself in third person ("Talus is typing a message on ENWorld" instead of "I'm typing a message on ENWorld"). Over time you begin to see youself both from your own internal point of view and from the point of view of an external observer, almost as if you have awareness in two places. The two awarenesses don't necessarily remain active and alert at the same times, so your normal first person awareness could be sleeping, while your observer awareness remains conscious and actually watches you sleep. For those who are persuing enlightenment the goal is for eventually the first person awareness to dissipate, leaving only the observer awareness. It was this last part, where all that's left is the observer awareness, that seems similar to your dream. I once had a conversation online with someone else whose dreams shifted around in a manner similar to what you described. This was in a forum where quite a few of us were analyzing our dreams and finding some meaning in them. This fellow posted about his shifting dreams, and commented that he'd always been of the belief that dreams don't have meaning, but are byproducts of the brain organizing itself and its data while we sleep. I couldn't disagree that being the case for him, but felt that for the ones of us who were getting meaning out of our dreams that something Jungian was going on. And I've had the forgetting thing happen to me, though usually it happens when I'm thinking about a dream later in the day. But then I've also had it happen with non-dream thoughts as well. [/QUOTE]
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