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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngainlyTitan" data-source="post: 5337470" data-attributes="member: 28487">I just want to add a rider to Celebrim's comments above. he is corrent as far as I know in the general thrust of his comment but there are some societies that did have a notion of balance. The ones that I have read about were Pacific island societies that suffered an environmental crisis but managed to correct themsevles and change enouugh to maintain a better lifestyle that some of their neighbours that did not change.There are also cases like Germany in I think the 1700 and Japan (not sure when) where stuff like re-afforestation became a priority of the rulers but this is in all cases spurred by a relisation of over-exploitation of vital resources not by any philosiphical desire to live as one with nature or anything like that.</blockquote>