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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6094619" data-attributes="member: 177">Yes, those would be classics, because they are common.&nbsp; I think we are working with different drivers in this case, though.&nbsp; There's a touch of your second item - but instead of it being so she can justify doing what she wants, it is so she doesn't need help with anything.&nbsp; Her form of &quot;strength&quot; seems to be of the form, &quot;other PCs need me, but I don't need the other PCs&quot; - a superiority also common with &quot;lone wolf&quot; types.&nbsp;&nbsp; She is then surprised that, needing nobody, her character makes no connections with the other PCs, so that they don't actually like or trust her PC.I don't think it is trust of the GM that's an issue here - she is old friends with the GM.&nbsp; I expect that there's a more general cynicism that I've found to be unfortunately common - some folks think it is cool to stay disengaged, so that you can complain about how things are, rather than commit and then have things going wrong be your own darned fault.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6094619, member: 177"] Yes, those would be classics, because they are common. I think we are working with different drivers in this case, though. There's a touch of your second item - but instead of it being so she can justify doing what she wants, it is so she doesn't need help with anything. Her form of "strength" seems to be of the form, "other PCs need me, but I don't need the other PCs" - a superiority also common with "lone wolf" types. She is then surprised that, needing nobody, her character makes no connections with the other PCs, so that they don't actually like or trust her PC. I don't think it is trust of the GM that's an issue here - she is old friends with the GM. I expect that there's a more general cynicism that I've found to be unfortunately common - some folks think it is cool to stay disengaged, so that you can complain about how things are, rather than commit and then have things going wrong be your own darned fault. [/QUOTE]

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