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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 1620311" data-attributes="member: 725">DRM is 0% about protecting the consumer and 100% of protecting the producer. The consumer doesn't get any added value due to DRM, the producer does. You might argue that some products wouldn't be available without DRM, that might be partly true, but that doesn't explain away the electronic business that has functioned without DRM for decades.Maybe, just maybe producers are looking in the wrong place and should evolve rather then fortify their market position. DRM is an 'ancient' state of thinking (although others would say otherwise). The only danger i see in the &quot;'piracy' is ok&quot; feel that a lot of people seem to have is that a lot of them are not spending any money in the branches where they can get stuff for 'free', which is just about any media.DRM won't stop piracy, the fact that DTRPG made a whole lot of books available in a digital format that weren't available before just made the whole piracy scene a happier place. As we speak there is a group working on getting the data of the DRMed pdf file intact into a non-DRMed file. Current methods mutilate the selectability of the text (copying produces gibberisch). DRM will stop a lot of people from buying stuff legally, because they are (rightly so) afraid for their privacy and their ability to use the product as they see fit (reading it on a pc that will never have a connection to the internet for example).I personally don't care, but that's because i'm confident that i'll be able to remove the DRMing in the next couple of months through a third party tool. I can already extract all the text and images intact within a day (no 10 day limit for me) of purchasing the file, it's just a lot of work for me to do and stops me from buying more then i do now. Malhavoc made a good decission by making their files available as non-DRMed files.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 1620311, member: 725"] DRM is 0% about protecting the consumer and 100% of protecting the producer. The consumer doesn't get any added value due to DRM, the producer does. You might argue that some products wouldn't be available without DRM, that might be partly true, but that doesn't explain away the electronic business that has functioned without DRM for decades. Maybe, just maybe producers are looking in the wrong place and should evolve rather then fortify their market position. DRM is an 'ancient' state of thinking (although others would say otherwise). The only danger i see in the "'piracy' is ok" feel that a lot of people seem to have is that a lot of them are not spending any money in the branches where they can get stuff for 'free', which is just about any media. DRM won't stop piracy, the fact that DTRPG made a whole lot of books available in a digital format that weren't available before just made the whole piracy scene a happier place. As we speak there is a group working on getting the data of the DRMed pdf file intact into a non-DRMed file. Current methods mutilate the selectability of the text (copying produces gibberisch). DRM will stop a lot of people from buying stuff legally, because they are (rightly so) afraid for their privacy and their ability to use the product as they see fit (reading it on a pc that will never have a connection to the internet for example). I personally don't care, but that's because i'm confident that i'll be able to remove the DRMing in the next couple of months through a third party tool. I can already extract all the text and images intact within a day (no 10 day limit for me) of purchasing the file, it's just a lot of work for me to do and stops me from buying more then i do now. Malhavoc made a good decission by making their files available as non-DRMed files. [/QUOTE]

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