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<blockquote data-quote="DemonWolfZero" data-source="post: 1752487" data-attributes="member: 23651"><p>When I next run someone using Psionics, I'm gonna allow built in DC scaling, but nerf individual powers. Oh, and let me get the book real quick and show you a few more things I find overpowered.</p><p></p><p>Elan Resistance ability, if abused is over-the-top. One way to do it is to be an Elan Psion/Illithid slayer. That way you become a Psion that lost one manifester level, gains full BAB for 10 levels and has a permanent Mind-blank on them, who can also ignore 622 points of damage a day base.</p><p></p><p>The ridiculously high pp total that a Psion gets, that translates into SEVENTEEN effectively 10th level spell slots if you burn them all on your 6 9th level powers known.</p><p></p><p>The combination of Overchannel and Talented. While costing you two feats, it allows you to expend focus to negate the 5d8 you would take from adding 3 manifester levels to a power. This is limited to only 3rd level powers or below, but this is made extremely ignore-worthy given the fact that Mind thrust is 1st level, but can effectively be 12th level by your 20th Psion level.</p><p></p><p>Various uses of Expanded Knowledge which can be negated by an intelligent DM that take advantage of the fact that there are worthwhile powers on the PsiWar list, that while high-level for a PsiWar, are piddly-leveled for a Psion. Force those using Expanded Knowledge to take it from the list in which it appears at highest level.</p><p></p><p>Animal Affinity as a buff power, balanced out by the fact that the Psychic Warrior and then the Egoist (in that order) are supposed to be Kings of Auto-Buffs, but unbalanced by the fact that a Psion or Wilder can get access to them and become a Wizard with all 6 stat-boosters in one slot.</p><p></p><p>Assimilate - 9th level power that does 20d6 to a touched living target. If you don't die, you give the manifester temporary hp equal to half damage done for an hour. If you DO die, you give the manifester temp hp equal to total damage dealt AND a +4 bonus to each ability score for an hour. There's a couple other things, but the stat boost is the big one. There's nothing about this power that doesn't let you do the classic, "My character has a Psicrystal, a staff, and a bag full of rats!" trick.</p><p></p><p>Astral Construct - customizable "summoned" monsters that can't be Dismissed, which is the only anti-"summoned creature" spell that Arcane and Divine casters have? Yeah. Look into the Constructor PrC while you're at it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>I'd mention the Psionic versions of Charm and Dominate, but Psions are supposed to be Gods of Mind-control anyways, so I find it fine that they have Charm Person and Charm Monster in the same power. Oh, and the ability to keep someone charmed for days at a time... Dominate is the same way, only I think there's also an "affect a second target" augmentation, so it effectively also has "Mass" rolled into it.</p><p></p><p>I'd go on, but I have that much to point out from A-C. I haven't even gotten to my new favorite example of broken Psionics, the Illithid Slayer, though I did mention it.</p><p></p><p>Cheers all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DemonWolfZero, post: 1752487, member: 23651"] When I next run someone using Psionics, I'm gonna allow built in DC scaling, but nerf individual powers. Oh, and let me get the book real quick and show you a few more things I find overpowered. Elan Resistance ability, if abused is over-the-top. One way to do it is to be an Elan Psion/Illithid slayer. That way you become a Psion that lost one manifester level, gains full BAB for 10 levels and has a permanent Mind-blank on them, who can also ignore 622 points of damage a day base. The ridiculously high pp total that a Psion gets, that translates into SEVENTEEN effectively 10th level spell slots if you burn them all on your 6 9th level powers known. The combination of Overchannel and Talented. While costing you two feats, it allows you to expend focus to negate the 5d8 you would take from adding 3 manifester levels to a power. This is limited to only 3rd level powers or below, but this is made extremely ignore-worthy given the fact that Mind thrust is 1st level, but can effectively be 12th level by your 20th Psion level. Various uses of Expanded Knowledge which can be negated by an intelligent DM that take advantage of the fact that there are worthwhile powers on the PsiWar list, that while high-level for a PsiWar, are piddly-leveled for a Psion. Force those using Expanded Knowledge to take it from the list in which it appears at highest level. Animal Affinity as a buff power, balanced out by the fact that the Psychic Warrior and then the Egoist (in that order) are supposed to be Kings of Auto-Buffs, but unbalanced by the fact that a Psion or Wilder can get access to them and become a Wizard with all 6 stat-boosters in one slot. Assimilate - 9th level power that does 20d6 to a touched living target. If you don't die, you give the manifester temporary hp equal to half damage done for an hour. If you DO die, you give the manifester temp hp equal to total damage dealt AND a +4 bonus to each ability score for an hour. There's a couple other things, but the stat boost is the big one. There's nothing about this power that doesn't let you do the classic, "My character has a Psicrystal, a staff, and a bag full of rats!" trick. Astral Construct - customizable "summoned" monsters that can't be Dismissed, which is the only anti-"summoned creature" spell that Arcane and Divine casters have? Yeah. Look into the Constructor PrC while you're at it :D I'd mention the Psionic versions of Charm and Dominate, but Psions are supposed to be Gods of Mind-control anyways, so I find it fine that they have Charm Person and Charm Monster in the same power. Oh, and the ability to keep someone charmed for days at a time... Dominate is the same way, only I think there's also an "affect a second target" augmentation, so it effectively also has "Mass" rolled into it. I'd go on, but I have that much to point out from A-C. I haven't even gotten to my new favorite example of broken Psionics, the Illithid Slayer, though I did mention it. Cheers all. [/QUOTE]
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