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<blockquote data-quote="TrevWar" data-source="post: 1804765" data-attributes="member: 23719"><p>I'm still thinking of going straight wizard, I can't find any PrCs that I would consider advantagious to the character design I have in mind, not even in the Libris Mortus. </p><p>I havn't looked throught the minitures handbook yet, Errol said there was a class of some kind in there that dealt or directed units/armies and gave buffs or what not, so that may be a good one. </p><p></p><p>The main focus of my character is going to be the summoning of skeletons and enchancing the heaven out of them as much as possible since I suck because I'm so focued on spell casting. :\ </p><p></p><p>I'm not to borken up about what was crossed out, <strong>most</strong> of them were "kind of wants" and "some what useful" things any way. </p><p></p><p>Hmmm, I was planning on useing that for my cohort and maybe one other high HD undead I create later and keeping the price (1,000 gp) on my magic items list, I didn't think it was "that" bad... </p><p></p><p></p><p>Like what, they already have DR 5/Blugeoning? I was planning on getting 1, maaaybe 2, of these for my cohort and one other high HD undead. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I figured that Knowledge (necrology) was something like that, but with it specifying a Necromancy topic I figured it would be more specific and limited to undead, I don't see this character being a religious man, or even caring much abour religion. I figured he'd pick up a few things here and there just with the "trade" that he's in, but I saw Knowledge (necrology) as a more focused and charactier specific skill. That and I just liked the flavor. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Is it at all possible for me to take both???</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait, what? x2 --> x4 what, undead I can control? I can already control 4 times my HD, its in the spell. I can summon 2 times my HD per casting, I can constrol 4 times my HD at one time. And not stack with what? What do you mean? </p><p>I know I can't take it yet, but it was one of the feats I looked over and immediatly thought "Oh, well that's a feat I should take."</p><p>I was thinking of taking it at 10th, I'm hoping and don't think there will be a reason to get it as soon as possible.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Could we come up with a list and only use the spells on the list? Honestly, I hadn't even looked at Enervation yet, but I'm some what interested in it now that you mention it...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Can I at least keep Skull Snare for entertainments sake, Animate Animal for tactical and misc. tasks, and Animate Skeleton for reviving a skeleton for a Ancient Wisdom Skull? </p><p>These are mostly here so I don't have to use a 4th level slot to animate 2 skeletons on the floor. It can be more efficient with these. Then again if I have a place to hold them I could just carry all the bodies we kill in a day and Animate Dead them at night before I go to sleep, but still, I liked the additional options. And I was plaing on useing Animate Zombie and just have one zombie at a time to stand by me as guard all the time, but I can always get some one/thing else to do that I guess. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Could make it a 1 round/level thing, but I'm not sure how many zombies I'm going to be useing any way, if any at all. Could just change it to giving them +10 to there base speed of something. </p><p></p><p></p><p>What if we changed it to "the soul must be willing to return"</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what to do with that. It would be great if I could see from both, right eye view from undead controlled, left eye my view, or something like that. What about the ability to switch between the two views for the spells duration?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nondetection is for protection vs. Scrying, which I don't care about. Mask Undead is protection vs. Detect Undead, Detect Dead, and any other thing that spicifically "looks" at undead. If some one were to scry on me they would still see my undead cohort.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I really want it. I didn't think there would be that much undead in a 1 mile area. What if we changed the range of it to something like 250 ft./level or so? That way it reaches near 1 mile at caster level 21. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmmm, very true... Crap, I wanted/needed that spell... Could we change its effect? Instead of healing me it heals another undead with in 30 ft. of the target undead? The main reason I liked this spell was it gave me the ability to "sacrifice" (as in Magic the Gathering) my undead to use Destruction Retribution more tactfully. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh wow, "for every two caster levels"... I missed that part...</p><p></p><p></p><p>I thought I did when you were palying that one Bard character? Well any way, I mostly want Persistent Spell for the Undead Conduit, Sensory Link, Voice of Deathly Whispers, Feigh Life, Visage of the Dead, Mask Undead, and a couple of other spells for me posing as an undead and my cohort posing as a living person that's in charge (So people will think to attack him first and leave me [the caster] the hell alone cause I can't take any kind of damage [19 HP at level 7, leave me alone...]).</p><p></p><p></p><p>So was I... ??? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> I think he's setting me up for a bigger fall... Like tossing my character in a prison in the beginning and the arm band they throw on my wrist is permanent and I can no longer use magic... Yeah, that's what he's doing, well you won't get a way with it you hear, I'm quick to your tricks Mr., and I won't have any of this mamby pamby no casting arm band from the far reaches of your twisted dirty, dirty, dirty mind... Ok, I'm done...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Neat and clever if I do say so...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TrevWar, post: 1804765, member: 23719"] I'm still thinking of going straight wizard, I can't find any PrCs that I would consider advantagious to the character design I have in mind, not even in the Libris Mortus. I havn't looked throught the minitures handbook yet, Errol said there was a class of some kind in there that dealt or directed units/armies and gave buffs or what not, so that may be a good one. The main focus of my character is going to be the summoning of skeletons and enchancing the heaven out of them as much as possible since I suck because I'm so focued on spell casting. :\ I'm not to borken up about what was crossed out, [B]most[/B] of them were "kind of wants" and "some what useful" things any way. Hmmm, I was planning on useing that for my cohort and maybe one other high HD undead I create later and keeping the price (1,000 gp) on my magic items list, I didn't think it was "that" bad... Like what, they already have DR 5/Blugeoning? I was planning on getting 1, maaaybe 2, of these for my cohort and one other high HD undead. I figured that Knowledge (necrology) was something like that, but with it specifying a Necromancy topic I figured it would be more specific and limited to undead, I don't see this character being a religious man, or even caring much abour religion. I figured he'd pick up a few things here and there just with the "trade" that he's in, but I saw Knowledge (necrology) as a more focused and charactier specific skill. That and I just liked the flavor. Is it at all possible for me to take both??? Wait, what? x2 --> x4 what, undead I can control? I can already control 4 times my HD, its in the spell. I can summon 2 times my HD per casting, I can constrol 4 times my HD at one time. And not stack with what? What do you mean? I know I can't take it yet, but it was one of the feats I looked over and immediatly thought "Oh, well that's a feat I should take." I was thinking of taking it at 10th, I'm hoping and don't think there will be a reason to get it as soon as possible. Could we come up with a list and only use the spells on the list? Honestly, I hadn't even looked at Enervation yet, but I'm some what interested in it now that you mention it... Can I at least keep Skull Snare for entertainments sake, Animate Animal for tactical and misc. tasks, and Animate Skeleton for reviving a skeleton for a Ancient Wisdom Skull? These are mostly here so I don't have to use a 4th level slot to animate 2 skeletons on the floor. It can be more efficient with these. Then again if I have a place to hold them I could just carry all the bodies we kill in a day and Animate Dead them at night before I go to sleep, but still, I liked the additional options. And I was plaing on useing Animate Zombie and just have one zombie at a time to stand by me as guard all the time, but I can always get some one/thing else to do that I guess. Could make it a 1 round/level thing, but I'm not sure how many zombies I'm going to be useing any way, if any at all. Could just change it to giving them +10 to there base speed of something. What if we changed it to "the soul must be willing to return" I'm not sure what to do with that. It would be great if I could see from both, right eye view from undead controlled, left eye my view, or something like that. What about the ability to switch between the two views for the spells duration? Nondetection is for protection vs. Scrying, which I don't care about. Mask Undead is protection vs. Detect Undead, Detect Dead, and any other thing that spicifically "looks" at undead. If some one were to scry on me they would still see my undead cohort. I really want it. I didn't think there would be that much undead in a 1 mile area. What if we changed the range of it to something like 250 ft./level or so? That way it reaches near 1 mile at caster level 21. Hmmmm, very true... Crap, I wanted/needed that spell... Could we change its effect? Instead of healing me it heals another undead with in 30 ft. of the target undead? The main reason I liked this spell was it gave me the ability to "sacrifice" (as in Magic the Gathering) my undead to use Destruction Retribution more tactfully. Oh wow, "for every two caster levels"... I missed that part... I thought I did when you were palying that one Bard character? Well any way, I mostly want Persistent Spell for the Undead Conduit, Sensory Link, Voice of Deathly Whispers, Feigh Life, Visage of the Dead, Mask Undead, and a couple of other spells for me posing as an undead and my cohort posing as a living person that's in charge (So people will think to attack him first and leave me [the caster] the hell alone cause I can't take any kind of damage [19 HP at level 7, leave me alone...]). So was I... ??? :confused: I think he's setting me up for a bigger fall... Like tossing my character in a prison in the beginning and the arm band they throw on my wrist is permanent and I can no longer use magic... Yeah, that's what he's doing, well you won't get a way with it you hear, I'm quick to your tricks Mr., and I won't have any of this mamby pamby no casting arm band from the far reaches of your twisted dirty, dirty, dirty mind... Ok, I'm done... Neat and clever if I do say so... [/QUOTE]
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