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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3291991" data-attributes="member: 3929">I mentioned the whole list not as a value judgement but rather for the sake of thoroughness; you remarked that all that was left in comparison to a human was a +2 Will and that isn't the case.I'm not going to go through all of your comments on the characteristics, but I will comment on +2 Will Saves: it is worth a feat. Iron Will is a feat and provides exactly that. For Fighters and Barbarians it is one of the best feats they can take; Drow get it in recompense for missing 2 HD.Seeten and I were already involved in a discussion comparing the Drow to a Human, thus the list provided. Saying &quot;other races get it&quot; doesn't mean it's not a benefit when compared to a human.As it happens, we agree, if not in methodology then in conclusion, that Drow are worht their +2 LA. They are not a very strong +2 LA, but they don't have to be. They'll hang in there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3291991, member: 3929"] I mentioned the whole list not as a value judgement but rather for the sake of thoroughness; you remarked that all that was left in comparison to a human was a +2 Will and that isn't the case. I'm not going to go through all of your comments on the characteristics, but I will comment on +2 Will Saves: it [i]is[/i] worth a feat. Iron Will is a feat and provides exactly that. For Fighters and Barbarians it is one of the best feats they can take; Drow get it in recompense for missing 2 HD. Seeten and I were already involved in a discussion comparing the Drow to a Human, thus the list provided. Saying "other races get it" doesn't mean it's not a benefit [i]when compared to a human[/i]. As it happens, we agree, if not in methodology then in conclusion, that Drow are worht their +2 LA. They are not a very strong +2 LA, but they don't have to be. They'll hang in there. [/QUOTE]

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