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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3294967" data-attributes="member: 3929">You are indeed right. But the opposition would counter by saying that not many characters reach those levels, so saying they are balanced at or around 20th level doesn't mean much.LA hurts more the larger percentage of ECL it represents. Arguing that the LA penalty is too high will benefit from examinations of low-ECL characters. Arguing the LA penalty is not too high will benefit from examinations of high-ECL characters. One could make a strategic choice in his arguments by choosing an ECL to compare that assists his argument, but if you really do want to thoroughly examine what the LA does to the character, you do need to look at levels both high and low.When making a choice about your own character, you should keep in mind what levels you expect to play at. If your games don't ever pass 5th level, a +2 LA race is likely a bad choice. If you start at 8th level, a +2 LA race becomes more attractive.</blockquote>