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<blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 3295522" data-attributes="member: 18680">Two quick comments:1) Battlesorcerer is an optional rule but a good class for a Drow despite the absence of a decent skill list to exploit the +2 INT.&nbsp; 2) When playing an arcane caster and using point buy (similar arguments work for rolled but require more space), CON for an arcane caster is 14 in EVERY SINGLE CASE.&nbsp; If you play a Drow you have 12.&nbsp; You can't move these points you save in DEX into CON because at this level CON is twice as expensive.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; When playing a melee character, you have the same issue.&nbsp; When buying stats, 14 is a big break point.&nbsp; This makes Dwarves (easy 16) tough and elves (usually 12) weak.&nbsp; Even with the Elite Array (15,14,13,12,10, 8 -- the stats the game is balanced across a Drow you see issues).&nbsp; Consider an iconic Drow (cleric so there is heavy armor) compared to the other two iconics (Dwarf and Human); we'll realistically assume that the 15 goes into wisdom . . .Human:STR 13 DEX 12 CON 14 INT 8 WIS 15 CHA 10DwarfSTR 13 DEX 12 CON 16 INT 8 WIS 15 CHA 8DrowSTR 13 DEX 14 CON 12 INT 10 WIS 15 CHA 12Sure, the Drow Stats are better.&nbsp; The Human is 2 levels up.&nbsp; Now consider a Asimar:STR 13 DEX 12 CON 14 INT 8 WIS 17 CHA 12Is that not uniformly better than a Drow?&nbsp; Sure the Drow could swap around stats to reduce DEX:Consider:STR 13 DEX 10 CON 12 INT 12 WIS 15 CHA 14But the LA +1 race is still almost better.&nbsp; Without the 2 HD, the Drow is clearly superior to the human or dwarf.&nbsp; But let's pick the exact middle of the range Level 11.&nbsp; The Drow is Level 9 and casting 5th level spells.&nbsp; The Dwarf is Level 11, has about 15 more hit points, +2 BAB, better saves (before racial bonuses), better syngeries and cast 6th level spells at a higher caster level.&nbsp; Ouch!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Votan, post: 3295522, member: 18680"] Two quick comments: 1) Battlesorcerer is an optional rule but a good class for a Drow despite the absence of a decent skill list to exploit the +2 INT. 2) When playing an arcane caster and using point buy (similar arguments work for rolled but require more space), CON for an arcane caster is 14 in EVERY SINGLE CASE. If you play a Drow you have 12. You can't move these points you save in DEX into CON because at this level CON is twice as expensive. When playing a melee character, you have the same issue. When buying stats, 14 is a big break point. This makes Dwarves (easy 16) tough and elves (usually 12) weak. Even with the Elite Array (15,14,13,12,10, 8 -- the stats the game is balanced across a Drow you see issues). Consider an iconic Drow (cleric so there is heavy armor) compared to the other two iconics (Dwarf and Human); we'll realistically assume that the 15 goes into wisdom . . . Human: STR 13 DEX 12 CON 14 INT 8 WIS 15 CHA 10 Dwarf STR 13 DEX 12 CON 16 INT 8 WIS 15 CHA 8 Drow STR 13 DEX 14 CON 12 INT 10 WIS 15 CHA 12 Sure, the Drow Stats are better. The Human is 2 levels up. Now consider a Asimar: STR 13 DEX 12 CON 14 INT 8 WIS 17 CHA 12 Is that not uniformly better than a Drow? Sure the Drow could swap around stats to reduce DEX: Consider: STR 13 DEX 10 CON 12 INT 12 WIS 15 CHA 14 But the LA +1 race is still almost better. Without the 2 HD, the Drow is clearly superior to the human or dwarf. But let's pick the exact middle of the range Level 11. The Drow is Level 9 and casting 5th level spells. The Dwarf is Level 11, has about 15 more hit points, +2 BAB, better saves (before racial bonuses), better syngeries and cast 6th level spells at a higher caster level. Ouch! [/QUOTE]

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