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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3295907" data-attributes="member: 3929">Human Clr3: BAB: 2 Attack: 3 HP: 10+2d8+4 (21) Skills: 2/level AC: 11 Feats: 3 Fort: 4 Ref: 2 Will: 5 Dwarf Clr3: BAB: 2 Attack: 3 HP: 11+2d8+4 (24) AC: 11 Skills: 1/ level Feats: 2 Fort: 6 (+2 v spells & SLA, +2 v poison) Ref: 2 (+2 v spells & SLA) Will: 5 (+2 v spells & SLA) Drow Clr1: BAB: 0 Attack: 1 HP: 9 AC: 12 Skills: 2/ level Feats: 1 Fort: 3 Ref: 2 Will: 4 (+2 v spells & SLA)Yep. Clearly the dwarf is the iconic cleric, and far superior in survival-ability than the drow. The drow must stay at range, which defeats many of the cleric's abilities. He does have the 120' darkvision to do so, but the problem is attacking that far with the cleric's selection of abilities.Aasimar Clr2BAB: 1Attack: 2HP: 10+1d8+2 (16.5)AC: 11Skills: 1/ levelFeats: 1Fort: 5Ref: 1Will: 6Again, the drow will stay out of melee range while the Aasimar may feel more comfortable doing so. Cleric seems to be a better class for the aasimar as well.Yup. The drow will still hurt at ECL 11 from the 2 HD loss (although I suspect somewhat less so than he did at ECL 3). None of his ability bonuses will synergize very well with his class abilities. His racial abilities that allow him to keep distance will be wasted on the cleric class, which leans towards melee with heavy armor and Close range spells.The degree to which the Drow as written do not synergize with the cleric class leads me to suspect that this may not be a good class to defend the idea that they are worth a +2 LA; I would still look at other classes to see how they compare before adjusting them however.</blockquote>

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