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<blockquote data-quote="Maldin" data-source="post: 3543471" data-attributes="member: 27170">I've already expressed my opinion that the meat of this book... the text... is really quite good and very useful, no matter what edition you are running, so I highly recommend purchasing the book. However I've gotta agree completely about the maps (and said so the moment I opened the book in my FLGS). The map of Erelhei Cinlu is ok (though not what I'd do by a long stretch, and I'll be redrawing it myself for posting to my website this summer) because it is a fairly close redraw of the Erelhei Cinlu map that first appeared in Fred Weining's Dragon 298 article (drawn by Chris West). Fred's 2002 article was the basis for that entire chapter, although he receives no credit.The other... ahem... maps... are utterly useless and (while I might be alone on this, not being a 3.5E'er) even insulting. These random-obstacle-type miniatures arenas do not belong in this kind of book. Give me REAL dungeon or building maps! Need a miniatures map? Grab a cloth and toss a few rocks onto it from 10 feet away. It will have the same effect (and usefulness). And what good is a 2 inch by 2 inch miniatures map, even if you are using that style of play? Are people really going to use a color scanner, and then print them out in full color on 4 by 4 foot sheets of paper? For those of us who actually want to see what a real temple or drow villa looks like... give us a real map! I'm guessing, from personal experience, that the authors (Ari, Greg, Rob, Anthony) had no say in the choice of graphics, and were likely just as surprised as the rest of us.Denis, aka &quot;Maldin&quot;Maldin's Greyhawk&nbsp; <a href="http://melkot.com" target="_blank">http://melkot.com</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maldin, post: 3543471, member: 27170"] I've already expressed my opinion that the meat of this book... the text... is really quite good and very useful, no matter what edition you are running, so I highly recommend purchasing the book. However I've gotta agree completely about the maps (and said so the moment I opened the book in my FLGS). The map of Erelhei Cinlu is ok (though not what I'd do by a long stretch, and I'll be redrawing it myself for posting to my website this summer) because it is a fairly close redraw of the Erelhei Cinlu map that first appeared in Fred Weining's Dragon 298 article (drawn by Chris West). Fred's 2002 article was the basis for that entire chapter, although he receives no credit. The other... ahem... maps... are utterly useless and (while I might be alone on this, not being a 3.5E'er) even insulting. These random-obstacle-type miniatures arenas do not belong in this kind of book. Give me REAL dungeon or building maps! Need a miniatures map? Grab a cloth and toss a few rocks onto it from 10 feet away. It will have the same effect (and usefulness). And what good is a 2 inch by 2 inch miniatures map, even if you are using that style of play? Are people really going to use a color scanner, and then print them out in full color on 4 by 4 foot sheets of paper? For those of us who actually want to see what a real temple or drow villa looks like... give us a real map! I'm guessing, from personal experience, that the authors (Ari, Greg, Rob, Anthony) had no say in the choice of graphics, and were likely just as surprised as the rest of us. Denis, aka "Maldin" Maldin's Greyhawk [url]http://melkot.com[/url] [/QUOTE]

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