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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 5022461" data-attributes="member: 51930">Dice4Hire:  what?  how are Cha/Dex remotely good for casters?  The only class that uses them both is Sorcerer, and I suppose Rogue.  The really hardcore stats for casters are Int, Con and Wis.  An Int/Wis race or an Int/Con race can pull (for example) a swordmage/artificer or a orbizard/artificer.  Heck, even Bard doesn't use Cha/Dex (which is bizarre to me, but it can't really be helped I suppose), ditto the Warlock.  Well, fey pact uses Cha, but that's not really helpful with the Dex bonus.      Even bosting useful secondary or tertiary stats is only so-so for most arcane or divine classes.Darkvision is the game-smasher power for heroic, sure, but the rest of 4e PC drow isn't really an issue.</blockquote>