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<blockquote data-quote="ouini" data-source="post: 1482340" data-attributes="member: 3506"><p>Well, at this point, I think I'll be going with a very conservative (low-cost) point system.</p><p></p><p>- d6, d8, d10, d12 cost 1, 2, 3, 4</p><p>- BAB costs 0, 1, 2</p><p>- Adding +1 to a save always costs 1</p><p>- 4, 6, 8, 10 SPs cost 0, 1, 2, 3</p><p>- Weapon and Armor Profs cost 0, 1, 2, 3</p><p>- Feats/Specials cost 3 (general) and 5 (combat)</p><p>- Restrictions give -2 and -4</p><p></p><p>I have a couple working philosophies with regards to feats/specials which makes this work out okay. Some big ones are:</p><p>- The ability to *choose* a feat when you level is better (i.e. worth more points) than having to choose them many levels ahead of time (laid out for you as class abilities are). So a Druid's or Ranger's or Barbarian's feats, the type and timing of which are laid out from level one, aren't worth as much as a fighter's feats, which he can capriciously or prudently choose as he goes to match the flavor of the world or campaign situations he's likely to encounter.</p><p>- Feats are sometimes based on level, and get better on their own as you advance. Bardic Knowledge, therefore, is one feat, which gets better as you advance.</p><p>- Feats which have prerequisites, are more powerful than ones which don't. Feats which have prereqs, but which don't offer more to the character than the prerequisite does (like Barbarian 2x, 3x, 4x Rage, and all progressive class abilities similar to it), should not cost as much as the original feat.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, just as the base hit die (d6) and base skill points (4 per level) cost absolutely nothing, I'm tinkering with regular saving throw progression (one save gets to +18 at 20th, the other two get to +6) costing nothing. This works out to giving two +1's at odd levels, and one +1 at even levels, for free.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ouini, post: 1482340, member: 3506"] Well, at this point, I think I'll be going with a very conservative (low-cost) point system. - d6, d8, d10, d12 cost 1, 2, 3, 4 - BAB costs 0, 1, 2 - Adding +1 to a save always costs 1 - 4, 6, 8, 10 SPs cost 0, 1, 2, 3 - Weapon and Armor Profs cost 0, 1, 2, 3 - Feats/Specials cost 3 (general) and 5 (combat) - Restrictions give -2 and -4 I have a couple working philosophies with regards to feats/specials which makes this work out okay. Some big ones are: - The ability to *choose* a feat when you level is better (i.e. worth more points) than having to choose them many levels ahead of time (laid out for you as class abilities are). So a Druid's or Ranger's or Barbarian's feats, the type and timing of which are laid out from level one, aren't worth as much as a fighter's feats, which he can capriciously or prudently choose as he goes to match the flavor of the world or campaign situations he's likely to encounter. - Feats are sometimes based on level, and get better on their own as you advance. Bardic Knowledge, therefore, is one feat, which gets better as you advance. - Feats which have prerequisites, are more powerful than ones which don't. Feats which have prereqs, but which don't offer more to the character than the prerequisite does (like Barbarian 2x, 3x, 4x Rage, and all progressive class abilities similar to it), should not cost as much as the original feat. Also, just as the base hit die (d6) and base skill points (4 per level) cost absolutely nothing, I'm tinkering with regular saving throw progression (one save gets to +18 at 20th, the other two get to +6) costing nothing. This works out to giving two +1's at odd levels, and one +1 at even levels, for free. [/QUOTE]
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