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<blockquote data-quote="DrSpunj" data-source="post: 1484550" data-attributes="member: 994"><p>Okay, here's a quick try at the Barbarian's abilities. Please help me flesh these out as the prerequisites here are quite a bit tougher than the Bard's. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p><strong>Rage</strong></p><p>Prereq: Fort save +2</p><p>Allows use of the Rage ability 1x/day. May be taken more than once allowing additional uses per day but maximum limited to (1+Level/4) (round down).</p><p>Cost: Base</p><p><em>Notes</em>: I'm a bit flexible on the Prereqs here, but I don't think it should necessarily be tied to HD, BAB or most other things. I could see a minimum Con requirement of something fairly low like 13+. Any ideas?</p><p></p><p><strong>Fast Movement</strong></p><p><em>AU equivalent: Fleet of Foot</em></p><p>Prereq: ??? <em>Ceremonial Feat: Truename</em></p><p>Grants +10 to Base Speed if not encumbered by Heavy Armor or a Heavy Load.</p><p>Cost: Base</p><p><em>Notes</em>: Again, the Prereqs need to be worked out. Minimum Dex 13+ makes a bit of sense since the ability doesn't work if you're overly burdened (and Dex is limited in the same situations). I could also see the Con 13+ again since maintaining that extra fast pace all the time is a pretty good mark of physical fitness. Any ideas? [EDIT: Monte's Fleet of Foot doesn't have anything beyond being a Ceremony, and doesn't limit the feat with heavy armor or encumbrance either]</p><p></p><p><strong>Uncanny Dodge</strong></p><p><em>AU equivalent: Intuitive Sense</em></p><p>Prereq: <em>Dex 13+, Truename</em></p><p>Allows use of the Uncanny Dodge ability.</p><p>Cost: Base</p><p><em>Notes</em>: Hmm, the Prereqs are killing me here. The ability says "to react to danger before his senses would normally allow him to do so". I can see tying that into Wis 13+ or a Reflex save or Dex 13+. Not sure, but it should be something pretty easy for both the Barbarian and Rogue to get at very low levels (though I'm not worried about it being exactly like Core; I think both the Barb & Rogue should get Uncanny Dodge at about the same time, personally). [EDIT: Again, Monte only requires a Truename making this a Ceremonial feat, but I personally like the Dex 13+ since it only helps those who have a positive Dex modifier.]</p><p></p><p><strong>Trap Sense</strong></p><p>Prereq: Uncanny Dodge</p><p>Allows use of the Trap Sense ability. May be taken more than once increasing the bonus by +1 each time, maximum Level/3.</p><p>Cost: Expansion</p><p></p><p><strong>Improved Uncanny Dodge</strong></p><p><em>AU equivalent: Improved Intuitive Sense</em></p><p>Prereq: Dex 13+, Truename, Uncanny Dodge/Intuitive Sense</p><p>Allows use of the Improved Uncanny Dodge ability.</p><p>Cost: Expansion</p><p><em>Notes:</em>: EDIT: Going back through AU, Monte doesn't even have a Dex requirement or a level requirement here, just the Truename so it's a Ceremonial feat again.</p><p></p><p><strong>Damage Reduction</strong></p><p>Prereq: ???, 4th level</p><p>Allows use of the Damage Reduction 1/- ability. May be taken more than once increasing the DR by +1 each time, maximum of Level/4.</p><p>Cost: Base</p><p><em>Notes</em>: Prereqs again here have me stymied. The only other Core class/PrC with DR I can think of OTTOMH are Dwarven Defenders, who also get Uncanny Dodge at an earlier level, as well as a Rage-like ability. Still, I'm not sure those are links I want to force/hard-code. They each make some sense, and DR is a pretty hefty benefit, so I want some tough prereqs.</p><p></p><p><strong>Greater Rage</strong></p><p>Prereq: Rage, 11th level</p><p>As the Greater Rage ability.</p><p>Cost: Expansion</p><p></p><p><strong>Indomitable Will</strong></p><p>Prereq: Rage, Greater Rage, 14th level</p><p>As the Indomitable Will ability.</p><p>Cost: Expansion</p><p></p><p><strong>Tireless Rage</strong></p><p>Prereq: Rage, Greater Rage, Indomitable Will, 17th level</p><p>As the Tireless Rage ability.</p><p>Cost: Expansion</p><p></p><p><strong>Mighty Rage</strong></p><p>Prereq: Rage, Greater Rage, Indomitable Will, Tireless Rage, 20th level</p><p>As the Mighty Rage ability.</p><p>Cost: Expansion</p><p></p><p>Probably try the Druid next. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Thanks.</p><p></p><p>DrSpunj</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DrSpunj, post: 1484550, member: 994"] Okay, here's a quick try at the Barbarian's abilities. Please help me flesh these out as the prerequisites here are quite a bit tougher than the Bard's. :confused: [b]Rage[/b] Prereq: Fort save +2 Allows use of the Rage ability 1x/day. May be taken more than once allowing additional uses per day but maximum limited to (1+Level/4) (round down). Cost: Base [i]Notes[/i]: I'm a bit flexible on the Prereqs here, but I don't think it should necessarily be tied to HD, BAB or most other things. I could see a minimum Con requirement of something fairly low like 13+. Any ideas? [b]Fast Movement[/b] [i]AU equivalent: Fleet of Foot[/i] Prereq: ??? [i]Ceremonial Feat: Truename[/i] Grants +10 to Base Speed if not encumbered by Heavy Armor or a Heavy Load. Cost: Base [i]Notes[/i]: Again, the Prereqs need to be worked out. Minimum Dex 13+ makes a bit of sense since the ability doesn't work if you're overly burdened (and Dex is limited in the same situations). I could also see the Con 13+ again since maintaining that extra fast pace all the time is a pretty good mark of physical fitness. Any ideas? [EDIT: Monte's Fleet of Foot doesn't have anything beyond being a Ceremony, and doesn't limit the feat with heavy armor or encumbrance either] [b]Uncanny Dodge[/b] [i]AU equivalent: Intuitive Sense[/i] Prereq: [i]Dex 13+, Truename[/i] Allows use of the Uncanny Dodge ability. Cost: Base [i]Notes[/i]: Hmm, the Prereqs are killing me here. The ability says "to react to danger before his senses would normally allow him to do so". I can see tying that into Wis 13+ or a Reflex save or Dex 13+. Not sure, but it should be something pretty easy for both the Barbarian and Rogue to get at very low levels (though I'm not worried about it being exactly like Core; I think both the Barb & Rogue should get Uncanny Dodge at about the same time, personally). [EDIT: Again, Monte only requires a Truename making this a Ceremonial feat, but I personally like the Dex 13+ since it only helps those who have a positive Dex modifier.] [b]Trap Sense[/b] Prereq: Uncanny Dodge Allows use of the Trap Sense ability. May be taken more than once increasing the bonus by +1 each time, maximum Level/3. Cost: Expansion [b]Improved Uncanny Dodge[/b] [i]AU equivalent: Improved Intuitive Sense[/i] Prereq: Dex 13+, Truename, Uncanny Dodge/Intuitive Sense Allows use of the Improved Uncanny Dodge ability. Cost: Expansion [i]Notes:[/i]: EDIT: Going back through AU, Monte doesn't even have a Dex requirement or a level requirement here, just the Truename so it's a Ceremonial feat again. [b]Damage Reduction[/b] Prereq: ???, 4th level Allows use of the Damage Reduction 1/- ability. May be taken more than once increasing the DR by +1 each time, maximum of Level/4. Cost: Base [i]Notes[/i]: Prereqs again here have me stymied. The only other Core class/PrC with DR I can think of OTTOMH are Dwarven Defenders, who also get Uncanny Dodge at an earlier level, as well as a Rage-like ability. Still, I'm not sure those are links I want to force/hard-code. They each make some sense, and DR is a pretty hefty benefit, so I want some tough prereqs. [b]Greater Rage[/b] Prereq: Rage, 11th level As the Greater Rage ability. Cost: Expansion [b]Indomitable Will[/b] Prereq: Rage, Greater Rage, 14th level As the Indomitable Will ability. Cost: Expansion [b]Tireless Rage[/b] Prereq: Rage, Greater Rage, Indomitable Will, 17th level As the Tireless Rage ability. Cost: Expansion [b]Mighty Rage[/b] Prereq: Rage, Greater Rage, Indomitable Will, Tireless Rage, 20th level As the Mighty Rage ability. Cost: Expansion Probably try the Druid next. :D Thanks. DrSpunj [/QUOTE]
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