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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 1484678" data-attributes="member: 224">Hey-ho.I'm afraid I'm not following much of what you and Ouini are working on right now.....in part because I'd like to stick to Core....and in part because I know how &quot;assigning points to abilities&quot; can be of dubious value.&nbsp; (Seriously.)Still, it's fun playing with your spreadsheet, DrSpunj, expecially when everything is simple and transparent!I took the liberty of putting a &quot;Comparison Calc&quot; at the top of the sheet, so I could see, at a glance, how the core classes compared with each other.&nbsp; As I mentioned before, I'm ignoring the AU classes (for familiarity's sake).&nbsp; I've also removed the Defence Bonus (that is: set cost to zero), as that's not interesting to me (YMMV, of course!).&nbsp; I've also restored the skill points per level to the Core values.&nbsp; Finally, I'm not going to try to address the &quot;point value&quot; of different skill lists, spell lists, and spell casting types.&nbsp; To really get a handle on the balance, that'll have to be done!&nbsp; Maybe some other time........*Anyway*....It seems pretty clear that most classes fall into a narrow range.&nbsp; That's good!&nbsp; (and expected, right!!?)&nbsp; Except the Ftr, of course.But when you give Ftrs 4 skill points per level (instead of 2), and an extra few feats (1 per level!), they are much closer to the mean of all classes.&nbsp; They are still, however, on the bottom.&nbsp;&nbsp; Average CBs for the Ftr are 14.3, a distinction they share with the Rog and the Pal.&nbsp; Compare that to the Drd (20.9) and the Rgr (21.1). Ah well. So: we change the Ftr, eh?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 1484678, member: 224"] Hey-ho. I'm afraid I'm not following much of what you and Ouini are working on right now.....in part because I'd like to stick to Core....and in part because I know how "assigning points to abilities" can be of dubious value. (Seriously.) Still, it's fun playing with your spreadsheet, DrSpunj, expecially when everything is simple and transparent! I took the liberty of putting a "Comparison Calc" at the top of the sheet, so I could see, at a glance, how the core classes compared with each other. As I mentioned before, I'm ignoring the AU classes (for familiarity's sake). I've also removed the Defence Bonus (that is: set cost to zero), as that's not interesting to me (YMMV, of course!). I've also restored the skill points per level to the Core values. Finally, I'm not going to try to address the "point value" of different skill lists, spell lists, and spell casting types. To really get a handle on the balance, that'll have to be done! Maybe some other time..... ...*Anyway*.... It seems pretty clear that most classes fall into a narrow range. That's good! (and expected, right!!?) Except the Ftr, of course. But when you give Ftrs 4 skill points per level (instead of 2), and an extra few feats (1 per level!), they are much closer to the mean of all classes. They are still, however, on the bottom. Average CBs for the Ftr are 14.3, a distinction they share with the Rog and the Pal. Compare that to the Drd (20.9) and the Rgr (21.1). Ah well. So: we change the Ftr, eh? [/QUOTE]

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