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<blockquote data-quote="DrSpunj" data-source="post: 1521743" data-attributes="member: 994"><p>Alright, cool. Take a look at it when you find some time (between those 12 hr work days, bleah!) and I'll wait for the feedback.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Just a matter of semantics, but for consistency's sake I like keeping everything rounded down, hence the 1+Level/2 formula. Still, we're thinking along the same lines.</p><p></p><p>I guess it comes back to what abilities should tie directly to character level and what should be relative.</p><p></p><p>As an example, Bardic Lore in Core is a bonus based on your Bard Level. Since we don't have that here I make anyone who takes Bardic Lore keep track of which character level they took the Bardic Lore feat at, so they get a +1 for every level they've had the Bardic Lore feat. If you're a 13th level PC and took Bardic Lore at 10th level you have a Lore bonus of +4. If you had taken it at 1st level you'd have a +13. You're rewarded for prioritizing your abilities.</p><p></p><p>If you tie Bardic Lore directly to character level then you end up with some wacky situations where an 18th level character takes Bardic Lore and all of a sudden has a whopping +18 to his Lore checks. That doesn't work for me.</p><p></p><p>I used the same mechanic with Animal Companions. Your "animal companion level" only counts the level you took the Animal Companion feat and later levels so an 18th level PC doesn't end up with a super celestial grizzly bear by taking the Animal Companion feat at 18th level.</p><p></p><p>Now, I don't think you can focus on Bardic Lore or Animal Companion to play catch up, but I agree that you could do that with Sneak Attack damage. Still, it seems a bit awkward that things like Bardic Lore & Animal Companion only reward those who take them early while Sneak Attack allows you to play catch up. If you miss out on a Full +1 BAB at one level you can't take +2 BAB the next; the system doesn't work that way.</p><p></p><p>Hmm...for consistency across the board I may tie everything to relative character levels. If you want to be a Sneak Attack master, you better take the feat once every couple levels. If you want to know a lot about the world around you (or figure out the best way to delve into the Akashic memory) you better take Bardic Lore (or Delve into the Collective Memory) as early as possible.</p><p></p><p>You certainly don't have to take things as soon as they're offered, but you won't reach your maximum potential unless you do because you're focusing on other things. I'll think about it some more, but I think tying things to relative PC levels is more consistent across the board and offers a real opportunity cost to what feat paths to pursue at each level.</p><p></p><p>I like that! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Thanks.</p><p></p><p>DrSpunj</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DrSpunj, post: 1521743, member: 994"] Alright, cool. Take a look at it when you find some time (between those 12 hr work days, bleah!) and I'll wait for the feedback. Just a matter of semantics, but for consistency's sake I like keeping everything rounded down, hence the 1+Level/2 formula. Still, we're thinking along the same lines. I guess it comes back to what abilities should tie directly to character level and what should be relative. As an example, Bardic Lore in Core is a bonus based on your Bard Level. Since we don't have that here I make anyone who takes Bardic Lore keep track of which character level they took the Bardic Lore feat at, so they get a +1 for every level they've had the Bardic Lore feat. If you're a 13th level PC and took Bardic Lore at 10th level you have a Lore bonus of +4. If you had taken it at 1st level you'd have a +13. You're rewarded for prioritizing your abilities. If you tie Bardic Lore directly to character level then you end up with some wacky situations where an 18th level character takes Bardic Lore and all of a sudden has a whopping +18 to his Lore checks. That doesn't work for me. I used the same mechanic with Animal Companions. Your "animal companion level" only counts the level you took the Animal Companion feat and later levels so an 18th level PC doesn't end up with a super celestial grizzly bear by taking the Animal Companion feat at 18th level. Now, I don't think you can focus on Bardic Lore or Animal Companion to play catch up, but I agree that you could do that with Sneak Attack damage. Still, it seems a bit awkward that things like Bardic Lore & Animal Companion only reward those who take them early while Sneak Attack allows you to play catch up. If you miss out on a Full +1 BAB at one level you can't take +2 BAB the next; the system doesn't work that way. Hmm...for consistency across the board I may tie everything to relative character levels. If you want to be a Sneak Attack master, you better take the feat once every couple levels. If you want to know a lot about the world around you (or figure out the best way to delve into the Akashic memory) you better take Bardic Lore (or Delve into the Collective Memory) as early as possible. You certainly don't have to take things as soon as they're offered, but you won't reach your maximum potential unless you do because you're focusing on other things. I'll think about it some more, but I think tying things to relative PC levels is more consistent across the board and offers a real opportunity cost to what feat paths to pursue at each level. I like that! :) Thanks. DrSpunj [/QUOTE]
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