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<blockquote data-quote="ouini" data-source="post: 1534330" data-attributes="member: 3506">You lost me. Do non-zero level spells cost mana to cast, then? Are there 1/2 and full level spellcasters? Do classes go away?Here we agree. At least, I think they should have the *option* of not casting.I didn't catch this when DrSpunj first posted. SSquirrel, I agree with you that caster level is caster level. But the huge trouble DrSpunj is trying to address is that it becomes easy to screw the whole system by taking one level of full caster, and then take the cheap half-caster levels from then on, using the more advantageous &quot;full caster&quot; table. So at 11th level, you've paid for 1 full level and 10 half levels, compared to someone who has taken 11 expensive full levels, but you use the same table? Nah. Either some conversion or a mana system is necessary.Then again, maybe I'm misunderstanding one or both of you.Amen. But I think if the GM manages to keep any fraction other than &quot;1/2&quot; out of the player's sight, he's doing pretty darned well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ouini, post: 1534330, member: 3506"] You lost me. Do non-zero level spells cost mana to cast, then? Are there 1/2 and full level spellcasters? Do classes go away? Here we agree. At least, I think they should have the *option* of not casting. I didn't catch this when DrSpunj first posted. SSquirrel, I agree with you that caster level is caster level. But the huge trouble DrSpunj is trying to address is that it becomes easy to screw the whole system by taking one level of full caster, and then take the cheap half-caster levels from then on, using the more advantageous "full caster" table. So at 11th level, you've paid for 1 full level and 10 half levels, compared to someone who has taken 11 expensive full levels, but you use the same table? Nah. Either some conversion or a mana system is necessary. Then again, maybe I'm misunderstanding one or both of you. Amen. But I think if the GM manages to keep any fraction other than "1/2" out of the player's sight, he's doing pretty darned well. [/QUOTE]

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