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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 1536609" data-attributes="member: 5202">I couldn't get the document to download on my computer.&nbsp; Can someone email that to me?&nbsp; Spunj?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;No problem.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;See this shows how frequently I even look at Paladin (I kinda hate them heh).&nbsp; Considering Paladins are already considered 1/2 caster level in core rules not level-3 like I was thinking (wasn't it 2E that did it that way?) AND the fact that half Mage Blade lines up nicely with the Magister table, Spunj's way is better.&nbsp; I may still utilize the mana system I mention (which was a seperate idea and very simple as a 9th level spell is worth 9 points, a 3rd worth 3 etc), but remember you still do look at the tables.&nbsp; Or you can kill the tables from the books by looking at them&nbsp; yourself and making a new table that goes like this:&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Half Caster&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Full Caster&nbsp;1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp;2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp;3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp;4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp;5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp;etc&nbsp;&nbsp;Which is how the tables breaks down with my easy mana system.&nbsp; Naturally you also get your Int bonus (or Int bonusx2 I can't decide which I like better) and you also get points at 1st level for your bonus spells.&nbsp; You could rule that they only earn the points for the levels they can actually cast or you can give them all the points at once thus allowing a bit more flexibility for a low level mage.&nbsp;&nbsp;The EQ RPG has a different mana system.&nbsp; Controlling stat (Int/Wis/Cha) x2xcaster level.&nbsp; So 5th level with a +3 stat bonus gets 3x2x5=30 mana.&nbsp; More simply...Mana pool=(ability bonusx2)xcaster level.&nbsp;&nbsp;Multiclassing is a simple bit of figuring for each class and adding together.&nbsp; They have 3 types of magic (arcane, divine and songs) which are ket seperate and we'd only have 1 pool so that is nice and simple.&nbsp; Mana is regained based on a Meditation skill for Ability bonus+Meditation skill/hour of rest, every 2 hours of light activity and every 4 hrs for strenuous.&nbsp;&nbsp;Again, I think my mana system is easier b/c in their system each individual spell has different mana costs.&nbsp; Mine is straightforward and based on spell level.&nbsp;&nbsp;Naturally, use it if you wish or skip if mana pools aren't what you want.&nbsp; Mana pools are really outside of this spreadsheet anyway honestly.&nbsp;&nbsp;Hagen</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 1536609, member: 5202"] I couldn't get the document to download on my computer. Can someone email that to me? Spunj? No problem. See this shows how frequently I even look at Paladin (I kinda hate them heh). Considering Paladins are already considered 1/2 caster level in core rules not level-3 like I was thinking (wasn't it 2E that did it that way?) AND the fact that half Mage Blade lines up nicely with the Magister table, Spunj's way is better. I may still utilize the mana system I mention (which was a seperate idea and very simple as a 9th level spell is worth 9 points, a 3rd worth 3 etc), but remember you still do look at the tables. Or you can kill the tables from the books by looking at them yourself and making a new table that goes like this: Half Caster Full Caster 1 2 4 2 1 2 3 1 2 4 1 3 5 2 4 etc Which is how the tables breaks down with my easy mana system. Naturally you also get your Int bonus (or Int bonusx2 I can't decide which I like better) and you also get points at 1st level for your bonus spells. You could rule that they only earn the points for the levels they can actually cast or you can give them all the points at once thus allowing a bit more flexibility for a low level mage. The EQ RPG has a different mana system. Controlling stat (Int/Wis/Cha) x2xcaster level. So 5th level with a +3 stat bonus gets 3x2x5=30 mana. More simply...Mana pool=(ability bonusx2)xcaster level. Multiclassing is a simple bit of figuring for each class and adding together. They have 3 types of magic (arcane, divine and songs) which are ket seperate and we'd only have 1 pool so that is nice and simple. Mana is regained based on a Meditation skill for Ability bonus+Meditation skill/hour of rest, every 2 hours of light activity and every 4 hrs for strenuous. Again, I think my mana system is easier b/c in their system each individual spell has different mana costs. Mine is straightforward and based on spell level. Naturally, use it if you wish or skip if mana pools aren't what you want. Mana pools are really outside of this spreadsheet anyway honestly. Hagen [/QUOTE]

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