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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3399356" data-attributes="member: 35788"><p>No, but isn't it the DMG that suggests that if you have a BBEG who only has half of their spells available for the day should have its CR reduced?</p><p></p><p>For example, say a party of average ECL 5 goes up against a level 7 wizard with the following spells left: 4/3/2/1/0</p><p></p><p>They've got the same amount of spells as a wizard of two levels less. But, they've got two extra levels of d4 hitpoints. (Not that much). They also have marginally better saves. (+1 all categories). Oh, and their BAB is +1, but that's not likely to matter much.</p><p></p><p>So, is that wizard 7 an ECL 7 ... or more like a 6 ... or just a powerful 5?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Edit: Should we be talking about an arcanist w/o a familiar I would agree that it doesn't diminish it all that much. But an animal companion of a druid is a reasonable force. Certainly not ECL to the party, but not chump change, either. If nothing else, it can get you flanking for a few rounds!</p><p></p><p>Edit II: Also, I'm not trying to compare a druid's animal companion to the wizard's most powerful spells. Certainly that is no comparison. What I am saying is that there is a precedent for reducing the CR of an opponent who is intentionally handicapped at the beginning of an encounter. An opponent who doesn't use their resources is not the same as one who does not have those same resources to use.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 3399356, member: 35788"] No, but isn't it the DMG that suggests that if you have a BBEG who only has half of their spells available for the day should have its CR reduced? For example, say a party of average ECL 5 goes up against a level 7 wizard with the following spells left: 4/3/2/1/0 They've got the same amount of spells as a wizard of two levels less. But, they've got two extra levels of d4 hitpoints. (Not that much). They also have marginally better saves. (+1 all categories). Oh, and their BAB is +1, but that's not likely to matter much. So, is that wizard 7 an ECL 7 ... or more like a 6 ... or just a powerful 5? Edit: Should we be talking about an arcanist w/o a familiar I would agree that it doesn't diminish it all that much. But an animal companion of a druid is a reasonable force. Certainly not ECL to the party, but not chump change, either. If nothing else, it can get you flanking for a few rounds! Edit II: Also, I'm not trying to compare a druid's animal companion to the wizard's most powerful spells. Certainly that is no comparison. What I am saying is that there is a precedent for reducing the CR of an opponent who is intentionally handicapped at the beginning of an encounter. An opponent who doesn't use their resources is not the same as one who does not have those same resources to use. [/QUOTE]
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