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<blockquote data-quote="Tatsukun" data-source="post: 1408630" data-attributes="member: 15511">ThoughtsIIRC, an unarmed attack and a natural attack are different. So, if you are a level one monk and you wild shape into a dire bear you can either take your monk attacks/damage OR the bear’s. We have always thought of it a ‘wielding a non monk weapon’ (in this case the weapons are ‘claws’ and ‘bite’). You are proficient (because of the druid levels), but you can’t flurry / stunning blow because they are not monk weapons. On the other hand, if you use the monk damage / attacks, you DO get that huge strength bonus, not to mention all that natural AC. Sounds fun.Of course, as a DM, you would have to do some serious explaining why your wild guardian of the wood spirit suddenly decides to become a monk (hard core lawful, controlled). I, personally, don’t let people pick up monk (or sorcerer) mid-game unless they actually do something in game for it; such as going to a monastery and study for a few years. But that’s just me. &nbsp;-Tatsu</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tatsukun, post: 1408630, member: 15511"] [b]Thoughts[/b] IIRC, an unarmed attack and a natural attack are different. So, if you are a level one monk and you wild shape into a dire bear you can either take your monk attacks/damage OR the bear’s. We have always thought of it a ‘wielding a non monk weapon’ (in this case the weapons are ‘claws’ and ‘bite’). You are proficient (because of the druid levels), but you can’t flurry / stunning blow because they are not monk weapons. On the other hand, if you use the monk damage / attacks, you DO get that huge strength bonus, not to mention all that natural AC. Sounds fun. Of course, as a DM, you would have to do some serious explaining why your wild guardian of the wood spirit suddenly decides to become a monk (hard core lawful, controlled). I, personally, don’t let people pick up monk (or sorcerer) mid-game unless they actually do something in game for it; such as going to a monastery and study for a few years. But that’s just me. -Tatsu [/QUOTE]

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