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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herschel" data-source="post: 5946483" data-attributes="member: 78357">Creating a list of haves and have-nots while getting the features people want/expect in the druid is the issue. It goes beyond normal domain items, for example, Clerics could get Turn Undead, or, if the right alignment, it became Control Undead. The Druid gets neither (Which, if designed as arbiter and protector of the natural order I would argue they should get more anti-undead goodies, not less, but I digress). Then they get the Wild Shape/Transformation stuff. Then....etc.  If they were just "Nature Clerics" then yeah, a theme would be fine but many (most?) people seem to want a Druid distinct from Clerics.</blockquote>