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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 786993" data-attributes="member: 710">The last time I checked the Epic Wild Shape Feats, you seemed to even get the Supernatural Abilities of the form you choose. This is very powerful (but its an epic feat), but, to some extend, its &quot;shaftes&quot; the Shifter - he would have to retake all the feats just to get the supernatural abilities of forms he otherwise can already assume.Currently two types are still missing for shifters: Fey and Shapechanger. The last one is obsolete with the Edition 3.5 (Shapechanger becomes a subtype), and I do not know about the Fey. I am not sure, but I think at least the Fey is an oversight. (fey aren`t really powerful creatures without their spells, so that can`t be a reason to prohibit these forms - Shapechangers is a bit stupid before Shifter level 10, because some forms might allow the character to break his daily limits of wild shape - but until now, I found no shapechanger with extraordinary shifting abilities, only Supernatural Ones...)The only thing a Epic Shifter might give is access to supernatural abilities, the two missing forms, and maybe even spellike abilities... Probably not enough room for a real Epic Progression...Mustrum Ridcully</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 786993, member: 710"] The last time I checked the Epic Wild Shape Feats, you seemed to even get the Supernatural Abilities of the form you choose. This is very powerful (but its an epic feat), but, to some extend, its "shaftes" the Shifter - he would have to retake all the feats just to get the supernatural abilities of forms he otherwise can already assume. Currently two types are still missing for shifters: Fey and Shapechanger. The last one is obsolete with the Edition 3.5 (Shapechanger becomes a subtype), and I do not know about the Fey. I am not sure, but I think at least the Fey is an oversight. (fey aren`t really powerful creatures without their spells, so that can`t be a reason to prohibit these forms - Shapechangers is a bit stupid before Shifter level 10, because some forms might allow the character to break his daily limits of wild shape - but until now, I found no shapechanger with extraordinary shifting abilities, only Supernatural Ones...) The only thing a Epic Shifter might give is access to supernatural abilities, the two missing forms, and maybe even spellike abilities... Probably not enough room for a real Epic Progression... Mustrum Ridcully [/QUOTE]

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