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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1305802" data-attributes="member: 259">jgsugden, what specific problems have you seen with MotW wildshape rules?  Near as I could tell, they work beautifully.  (We never used them with the new, Wildshape-into-Plants stuff; admittedly it breaks down if you introduce this rule). Asmo, there is some question about whether you're off the hook on the armor.  Ironwood contains the following line:  Does this mean that they can be used without proficiency?  Or does it mean that they can use them without conflicting with the druidic vows? I've always assumed it meant the latter, but maybe your DM will interpret it as meaning the former. Mike, my main problem with the equipped-horsey model actually isn't power level:  it's the image.  I love the idea of a druid casting spells while wildshaped, and think that fits heroic literature well as an image; the idea of a bear bedecked in a cloak, an amulet, two rings, a pair of goggles, bracelets, and booties just strikes me as completely silly-looking. In the game I just completed, I tended to find that my druid wasn't the best frontline fighter: he was far better off holding back and casting spells (flamestrike especially gives fireball a run for its money, considering its higher damage cap and potential for precise placement).  Power-wise, I did better than other characters at some times (especially through judicious use of the incredible Wall of Thorns) and worse than them at other times (especially when confronted by incorporeal critters).  Overall it seemed about right. Daniel</blockquote>

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