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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 1146514" data-attributes="member: 957">I think you are stretching with the mix and match.Sorry for stating such an obvious fact, but you have forced it.&nbsp; Base saves are a function of Hit Dice, not CON.&nbsp; Actually, looking at it again, I think you have strenghtened my case.&nbsp; The point they are making appears to be that none of the items that are normally a function of HD change, regardless of what HD the form you select has.&nbsp; This includes hit points.&nbsp; So they are not even talking about a relationship between hit points and CON, they are talking about a relationship between hit points and hit dice.&nbsp; Nothing in Alter Self states that a change in CON would not carry with it the normal changes in HP or Fort saves.&nbsp; Why should they?&nbsp; Alter self does not change your CON, so there is no reason to discuss the impact of changing CON any more than there is reason to discuss the impact of chaging effective caster level.There is not a single word or phrase in the description of Alter Self that contradicts a change in CON changing hit points.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 1146514, member: 957"] I think you are stretching with the mix and match. Sorry for stating such an obvious fact, but you have forced it. Base saves are a function of Hit Dice, not CON. Actually, looking at it again, I think you have strenghtened my case. The point they are making appears to be that none of the items that are normally a function of HD change, regardless of what HD the form you select has. This includes hit points. So they are not even talking about a relationship between hit points and CON, they are talking about a relationship between hit points and hit dice. Nothing in Alter Self states that a change in CON would not carry with it the normal changes in HP or Fort saves. Why should they? Alter self does not change your CON, so there is no reason to discuss the impact of changing CON any more than there is reason to discuss the impact of chaging effective caster level. There is not a single word or phrase in the description of Alter Self that contradicts a change in CON changing hit points. [/QUOTE]

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