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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 1147718" data-attributes="member: 2629">The statement in polymorph (about changing constitution) is too far removed from the statement on your hit point total not changing for it to override it. Hit points and constitution are different subjects that are only secondarily related. In order for your hit points to change, there needs to be a specific rule in polymorph that directly overrides the hit point language in alter self. No such language exists.In other words, there is a specific and direct statement in alter self that hit points do not change. There would need to be a specific and direct statement in polymorph to overrule this language. No such statement exists. Thus, the language stands: Hit points do not change. This is a fairly basic rule in interpreting rules/laws: Specific language trumps over indirect results of language on a different topic.Your arugument is akin to the following: The posted speed limit is 25 MPH. There is a law in the books that says you may not drive faster than any ambulance in sight. You see an ambulance flying down the road at 90 MPH. You speed up to 89 MPH and follow it. When the cop pulls you over, you say, "The law says that I must drive slower than any ambulance in sight, so I didn't break the law."A specific clause needs to be specifically countered. There is nothing in the language of polymorph or wildshape that specifically counters the specific language of alter self that specifically specifies the specification that hit points do not change. Period.You seem very stuck in your position. I don't think that anybody is going to change their opinion today. You would be well served to take a step back from the issue and revisit it in a few days with all the arguments that have been presented to you in mind. Perhaps you'll see it from a different light. Either way, I don't think it will be worth my time to try and convince you.</blockquote>

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