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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1157450" data-attributes="member: 14225">Whatever else you do, this is completely wrong.Constitution does not exist as a series of discreet units. Adding 4 to your constitution does not give you two hit points per die. It gives you a new modifier as specified on page 8 of the 3.5 PHB. This new modifier is then added to all of your hit dice.So if, for some strange reason you didn't modify hit points from a new Con score when you wildshaped into a creature with a 19 Con - when you Bear Enduranced you would then apply a +6 total modifier.Otherwise, care to explain what happens to a Constitution 14 Druid who Wildshapes into a Con 19 creature and then loses 1 Constitution point to blood drain?&nbsp;<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> Regardless, the rules are pretty clear on this: changes to Con affect your hit points just as vigorously as axe blows to the head do - and Wildshaping protects you from neither.The &quot;official&quot; sources are in agreement as well: Skip Williams, Customer Service, and even Andy Collins all agree that the 3.5 Polymorph (and by extension Wildshape) change hit points when and if they change Con.You can whine about it all you want - but that is the rules. This is a rules forum, we are expected to give correct answers and first and wish-lists afterwards. The correct answer is that hit points change when your Con does.-Frank</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1157450, member: 14225"] Whatever else you do, this is completely wrong. Constitution does not exist as a series of discreet units. Adding 4 to your constitution [i]does not[/i] give you two hit points per die. It gives you a new modifier as specified on page 8 of the 3.5 PHB. This new modifier is then added to all of your hit dice. So if, for some strange reason you didn't modify hit points from a new Con score when you wildshaped into a creature with a 19 Con - when you Bear Enduranced you would then apply a +6 total modifier. Otherwise, care to explain what happens to a Constitution 14 Druid who Wildshapes into a Con 19 creature and then loses 1 Constitution point to blood drain? :rolleyes: Regardless, the rules are pretty clear on this: changes to Con affect your hit points just as vigorously as axe blows to the head do - and Wildshaping protects you from neither. The "official" sources are in agreement as well: Skip Williams, Customer Service, and even Andy Collins all agree that the 3.5 Polymorph (and by extension Wildshape) change hit points when and if they change Con. You can whine about it all you want - but that [i]is[/i] the rules. This is a rules forum, we are expected to give correct answers and first and wish-lists afterwards. The correct answer is that hit points change when your Con does. -Frank [/QUOTE]

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