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<blockquote data-quote="TaranTheWanderer" data-source="post: 7448066" data-attributes="member: 15882">Maybe I wasn't using it creatively enough.&nbsp; I remember shape wood being handy to get through doors and stuff, building fortifications.&nbsp; It really shined in mass combat situations but I rarely remember it being overpowered or a 'go-to' spell.&quot;Stone shape is pretty Strong&quot;I can't really see the power of a 4th level slot being used to shape 5 feet of stone.&nbsp; There are much better spells at that level.&nbsp; It's situational, at best.&nbsp; And, in 3.5, I don't recall using it in combat ever.&nbsp; But maybe it's because I saw it more of a utility spell.&nbsp; Now that I look at it, you could really reshape the battlefield in a cave or similar circumstance.&nbsp; But that would have been easily solved by making it a ritual or giving it a 1 or 10 minute casting time instead of reducing the area affected.&nbsp; At 4th level, I feel it should have more of an impact.As far as hallow being a religious spell, druids are based on the Celtic version of a cleric.&nbsp; Religious leaders of an entire culture.&nbsp; Are they supposed to be something different in 5e? Are you just supposed to play a Nature Cleric?&nbsp; What's the point of a druid, then, if they are removing the flavour that made the class what it is?I suppose it's easy to just add Hallow to their list.&nbsp; But then you have to have a conversation with your DM.&nbsp; Which rubs me the wrong way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TaranTheWanderer, post: 7448066, member: 15882"] Maybe I wasn't using it creatively enough. I remember shape wood being handy to get through doors and stuff, building fortifications. It really shined in mass combat situations but I rarely remember it being overpowered or a 'go-to' spell. "Stone shape is pretty Strong" I can't really see the power of a 4th level slot being used to shape 5 feet of stone. There are much better spells at that level. It's situational, at best. And, in 3.5, I don't recall using it in combat ever. But maybe it's because I saw it more of a utility spell. Now that I look at it, you could really reshape the battlefield in a cave or similar circumstance. But that would have been easily solved by making it a ritual or giving it a 1 or 10 minute casting time instead of reducing the area affected. At 4th level, I feel it should have more of an impact. As far as hallow being a religious spell, druids are based on the Celtic version of a cleric. Religious leaders of an entire culture. Are they supposed to be something different in 5e? Are you just supposed to play a Nature Cleric? What's the point of a druid, then, if they are removing the flavour that made the class what it is? I suppose it's easy to just add Hallow to their list. But then you have to have a conversation with your DM. Which rubs me the wrong way. [/QUOTE]

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