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<blockquote data-quote="Mr.E_Danger" data-source="post: 6257570" data-attributes="member: 6687532">Even as a &quot;seasoned&quot; PF player, i find the wildshape rules to be rather confusing.&nbsp; Having to navigate the druid's page plus the polymorph and transmutation pages make it so rules are rather hard to find. The PC's mental stats do not change.&nbsp; The physical ones change based upon the size of the creature you are wild shaping into.&nbsp; You gain the attacks listed in the stat block, but not the modifiers.&nbsp; The modifiers you use are whatever the PC's physical stats are.For example, a 6th level PC has str ability score of 12, so he has a +1 mod to Strength.&nbsp; PC then wild shapes into a dire tiger, which is a large creature.&nbsp; Because of that, he gains +4 to his strength score (+2 mod).&nbsp; So when this PC is a tiger his attacks are: 2 claws (BAB of 4 + 3 str mod) +7 2d4+3, bite would be +7 2d6+3 Vs. the Dire Tiger's stat block which factors in the tiger's strength score of 23. Hope that helps a bit and is not confusing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mr.E_Danger, post: 6257570, member: 6687532"] Even as a "seasoned" PF player, i find the wildshape rules to be rather confusing. Having to navigate the druid's page plus the polymorph and transmutation pages make it so rules are rather hard to find. The PC's mental stats do not change. The physical ones change based upon the size of the creature you are wild shaping into. You gain the attacks listed in the stat block, but not the modifiers. The modifiers you use are whatever the PC's physical stats are. For example, a 6th level PC has str ability score of 12, so he has a +1 mod to Strength. PC then wild shapes into a dire tiger, which is a large creature. Because of that, he gains +4 to his strength score (+2 mod). So when this PC is a tiger his attacks are: 2 claws (BAB of 4 + 3 str mod) +7 2d4+3, bite would be +7 2d6+3 Vs. the Dire Tiger's stat block which factors in the tiger's strength score of 23. Hope that helps a bit and is not confusing. [/QUOTE]

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